Talk:Admin Noticeboard

Feel free to ask the admins questions, propose ideas, report problems, etc. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 13:22, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Power Rangers Answers
The Power Rangers Answers site that's connected to this one is currently a gigantic mess... I'm doing my best to contain and answer questions, and sort the children who are posting random thoughts and immature stuff, but since I can't delete questions, I was wondering what can be done?

Binaryravenx 23:52, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

For the Admins
I have two major revisions I would like to work on.

Each their own page
The other issue is something that I'm still battling myself on, because I don't wanna discount previous work. I think we should go back to having individual pages and be as detailed as we can on each.

Things that made me think this are certain zords that can form various combos (and honestly, each has their own story anyway) and also the realization that pages referencing groups can be categories, and numerical trivia can be eliminated (like this is the eight lion zord) etc by making better-written category pages.

Also there are too many things in Power Rangers and Super Sentai that can be categorized to limit. It would be nice to be able to click a page and see all the swords, or all the bazookas, or all the zords that were fliers, for example. If I was a newbie and wanted to see all the Ultrazords, I shouldn't be redirected to Titanus, but to Ultrazord's own page with a full history and detail.

Besides we have tons of character pages that are stubs, but I wouldn't suggest eliminating them either, for if someone did a character-centric episode review and placed it there, the page would have better content, and would be another step towards a more comprehensive wikia.

So, if everyone is on board with it, I think we should start being truly specific with zords and arsenal once more, also being better with building categories, all in the interest of being a more serachable, clickable wikia.

DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 13:48, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm going to be very skeptical here. There is simply not enough information on the majority of zords for them to merit their own pages. And having them under Arsenal or Zords (season) helps keep them together for easy reference. The Blue Unicorn Thunderzord...what could we say about it? It's...blue, and...shoots rocks. I mean, there's no way we can stretch that into a full page. Even the Tigerzord itself wouldn't merit a page on its own, nor could the Power Cannon or Shark Cycles. I'm going to vote no, and that we keep the Arsenal and Zord pages intact as they are. -- Gear [[image:ltest.png]] Richie, Admin (Talk) 04:34, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Tigerzord has seen multiple battles and I maintain that it's fine as is. Regarding most of the zords, a lot of them are based off of something- the Unicorn for example off the top of my head can have its stats (which the streamlining has removed), as well as its history as having been formerly Triceratops as well as where the design originated (an amalgam of the name Pegasus and its chinese correlation) as well as how it was translated into PR as unicorn. Not to mention its inclusion in the categories it can fall under. It may not be done for all the zords but certainly we shouldn't limit them. Now there ARE zords that are similar physically to each other and named as such, in those cases I agree that they can be grouped together, such as the Time Flyers. The wiki articles should be able to expand beyond simple descriptions and be open to a more in-depth look at each item and the ability to categorize. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 04:52, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that this subject was covered on Gear-Richie's talk page wherein the decision was meet in the middle with the fleet of zords to be on the individual Megazord pages, like the current state of MMPR to Ninja Storm and Jungle Fury through Samurai Megazords. DigiRanger  05:14, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but this suggestion was a step further. If no one feels the same way, I'm still good with the halfway thing. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:17, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Though I'm not admin on here, I feel compelled to stick my two cents in. We need to go off of facts when creating zord pages, not speculations and observations. Given that this is Power Rangers where you can breathe on the moon, however, that is open to debate. The decision will have to fall depending on the various series. Example-the Arsenal pages for MMPR were getting too big and there was alot of history behind them. However, recent series don't have as much history and information behind them to truly back up a page. So we may have to come down to making exceptions and re-building the Arsenal and Zord pages. Sorry Dc, but there is a requirement of hard information to back up pages, and we'll eventually be justifying having anon conttributors making pages for every single zord.Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 05:36, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hard facts should always be the priority of course. My comcern is that we don't have the allowances for certain items to have their comcrete history written in. I'm still actively jonesing for more people to properly use the storylink templates. Casual speculation and observation should be left off the table, no matter what the page.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:54, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm closing this particular inquiry. We won't be doing the individual pages. I'll need your input on the other suggestion.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:22, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm another regular contributor, and I'm with the others on this. There just isn't enough noteworthy material for individual pages for each and every zord. Ones like the Tigerzord that have a lot of story to them, or countless uses, I could probably see. But like with Gear-Richie's example, I don't see it working for every zord. Most of them nowadays definitely won't do. Nbajammer 07:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Merged Homepage
I was hoping we could get a merged Power Rangers/Super Sentai homepage, seeing as we treat both franchises with an equal great respect in terms of content. I was thinking perhaps we could have both in one page. My thoughts on it:


 * Two large icons, one for the current PR and another for the current sentai. Perhaps below the current PR is a small icon of the original sentai. These can serve as the larger portions of the homepage.
 * Smaller title logos of all (or would words be better) situated somewhere. One other idea I had is to have one column with the tiny icon of the franchise (say the Shiba icon) then have Shinkenger and Samurai as links beside.
 * Featured articles, which can change either daily or whenever we feel like.
 * Featured zords, megazords, rangers, weapons, episodes.
 * I'll need your input guys. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:23, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Love this idea, at least in principle. Having 2 different main pages often can lead to confusion if someone is directed here for Sentai info but sees a Power Rangers main page, and vice versa. Though it is not the same as this wiki, perhaps you could look at the BioShock wiki and see how they do it. Their main page has a section for each of the main titles in the video game series, and you don't leave the main page to shift between them. Ours would not need to be so elaborate, per se - but it could work to change from PR to Sentai and back as desired. I'm not suggesting a mere copy/paste, but maybe it can be used as inspiration here. Nbajammer 07:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * That was some really good coding! I think we'll have a look at this.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 10:34, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just looked at the Bioshock link and I have to say I agree, that is a much more streamlined layout. We should definitely do something like that here. I also like the icon/names idea, which would take up less space. Our last redesign was when the Wikia layout changed from Monaco to the current one, which messed up the layout of the homepage, so it's only had minor tweaks in the last year. These changes should give the wiki a more professional image. Digifiend 16:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, we should have a monthy featured profile, as well as a board for announcements. Things like Kamen Rider vs. Super Sentai should be in a sort of "news" section, along with the announcement of Go-Busters. It's good to keep users of the wiki informed and have news up front. Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 22:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Toys
I'll be abandoning the idea of a sideways partner wiki JUST for the toys. As we are now, we can make good toyline pages within this wiki itself, so putting 'em up on Ranger Collector Wiki is not necessary. Perhaps we can do the same thing TF Wiki does by putting the toys on a subpage. Like Megazord/Megazord toys under Megazord for better organization.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 10:41, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Admin Noticeboard
I would like to suggest perhaps placing a link on the left-hand navigation menu to the Noticeboard so we editors can come here to see what needs done, and reach this talk page quickly. The Guild Wars Wiki has such a link for its Admin Noticeboard, and I think it would be useful here as well. Also, I think the seasons box is redundant, especially given it only has 3 seasons on it and the new dual-purpose of the wiki. Nbajammer 04:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * We don't really have a left-hand menu on here but perhaps something can be done to the topmost menubar (which I plan on cleaning up as well). Which seasons box are you referring to?DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:28, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * On the left side of the screen there is a navigation bar, with links to "The Morphin Grid: A Power Rangers Wiki", "Sentai Section", "Episodeguide", "Recent changes", "Random page", and "Links". I was proposing we add a link to the Noticeboard there. Immediately below that is the seasons box. You might need to switch to MonoBook to see them. Nbajammer 05:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see (or I don't, so I'm gonna switch to Monobook. haha. I fixed our topmost menu, so that it contains all the relevant pages under Super Sentai and Power Rangers. It can only hold six subheaders at a time so I put in two series each and the popular searchables.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:07, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * For monobook, I fixed the seasons bar to cover currently airing PR and sentai and have added a 'for editors' section, which includes the admin noticeboard, and some other usual stuff.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:25, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. Recent changes feels out of place down there, but that'll take getting used to. Love the new shows bar as well. Nice to have it all handy when on any given page so I can get back to where I need to be when I need to. Nice work Dc. Nbajammer 08:04, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice one Christophe. Digifiend 15:48, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Unofficial Super Sentai - Akibaranger
"Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters is the official 36th Super Sentai Series, but TOEI decided to launch another Super Sentai series named Hikonin Sentai AkibaRanger (iterally: Unofficial Squadron). This "Unofficial Squadron" is not part of the official line of Super Sentai but is still called a Super Sentai anyway. Consider it an "EX Super Sentai". AkibaRanger will tell the story of three young people (a boy and two girls according to the picture) being part of an otaku club and living in the new "Electric-Town" Akihabara. They will have to fight a mysterious malevolent entity that swore to conquer Earth with cool gadgets created by a brilliant genius. The series starts in April 2012 but no actor has been announced or rumored yet. BANDAI also announced a toyline for this series." http://www.akibaranger.jp/

So, do we include this new show on the wiki? Digifiend 19:32, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we should. But perhaps it'll be in its own tiny area for now. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 19:40, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Potential Edit War
Might want to keep an eye on User:Jay Hawk and the pages he is editing - he seems to disagree with the changes the wiki is making and feels it's his call whether the page stays or is redirected to the Category page that links to all the articles. Gaeaman and myself have pointed this out to him, but he doesn't seem to care. Nbajammer 23:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this is squared away now. I hope. Nbajammer 00:29, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep an eye on him. If he starts an edit war, we could ban him for a day, to allow us time to undo the changes and protect the articles in question. Persistent unconstructive edits would yield a longer ban. But hopefully that won't be necessary. Digifiend 01:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * You guys are much nicer than I am. Haha. But yes, let's keep a watchful eye. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 01:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

EX shows status
Ninja Captor and Akibaranger now have their place in the wiki among the Super Sentai stuff. Now given that their status is unofficial, any instance you see them have some sort of mark or reminder that they aren't a fixed part of Super Sentai. As such in the front page we have them listed as X (Ninja Captor), as it was stricken off the Sentai series, and EX (Akibaranger) as it is a special series. Just a reminder, treat them with the respect you would any sentai and PR series here on the wiki, but take care to ensure you have some sort of disclaimer on each show's status. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 18:23, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Morphin Grid name change, Super Sentai Wikia
Guys, did you know that as far as wikia knew we were still Power Rangers Universe? Anyway, I already requested a SITENAME change to The Morphin Grid: The Power Rangers and Super Sentai Wiki which should reflect our dual nature.

On another note, Super Sentai wikia is still a budding site and they have a lot of coding issues still, but in the interest of 'oneness' I proposed to wikia to adopt the site (have it redirect to Morphin Grid) given that everything that they wish to start discussing there already exist here. Also people will be better equipped to find relevant data. The people at wikia say I should await the wiki's response, or if none is given in seven days. It'll be eligible for adoption.- DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 18:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noticed the correction in the emails - nice work. Wasn't sure how to go about fixing that. I hope that's the last of the Power Rangers Universe references, I've been trying to correct them all for a couple of months now (changed a link to the To Do List on the homepage earlier, as that was a redlink as a result of pointing to the old name - it should've been redirected when that page was moved). There's a message board called Power Ranger Universe (which I happen to be an admin on, it was originally Power Ranger Empire) and I don't want the wiki confused with that. Digifiend 02:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Universal Image Changes
Made two changes to the board universally. No longer will you see an add button on galleries. Also, the user who added the images is no longer listed below in thumbnails. Both changes greatly reduce clutter across the wiki.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 11:02, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That has been annoying me since Wikia introduced that "feature". Didn't know the uploader credit on thumbnail images was removable, nice work. Digifiend 18:11, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks man. I've also added credit to images cropped off of Ranger Central database images. Those appear everywhere on the net, and they deserve the credit.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 07:59, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Full Titles
Guys, I put the full Power Rangers titles back. Figured we have the same respect for fully titling Sentai, and this would be better. Redirects are still in place so in places aside from the article titles you can still peruse the shorter names. SPD has also been cleaned up with a minor disambig note on the season page.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 16:48, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Super Sentai
We are now officially supersentai.wikia.com AND powerrangers.wikia.com - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 18:33, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sentai last appearances
I see Kenta from Maskman has his last appearance listed as The Great Gathering of 11 Sentai: The Glorious Opening Collection, which is the first episode of Turboranger. I understand that the past rangers only appeared unmorphed in archive footage (which shouldn't count), so surely if that morphed-only appearance counts, nobody's last appearance should be earlier than The Space Pirates Appear or even Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle, due to the Legend War footage? Otherwise, Kenta's last episode should be Maskman's finale. Digifiend 00:09, January 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I completely agree with this. I did start to update it a few months ago but then got too busy with other things. Let's just replace that bit with Great Legend War, seeing as it was seen in The Space Pirates appear and Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle. DigiRanger  00:30, January 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've often wondered about this as well, and I've tended to lean towards if it's intended for them to be there, to use it but if they aren't a focus then it doesn't count. So in your example, because the Legend War focuses collectively on the rangers, but we merely see them for mere seconds if that, I would pass that over - but ones we see extensively, such as the Goseigers, BoukenRed, Go-On Yellow, etc who feature more prominently, then I would count those. That may not make much sense, but I am not sure how to better word it. Nbajammer 00:31, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're saying. So you think that Tsuruhime's would be her Gokaiger episode, Umeko's would be 199 Hero, but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be the VS movies for the following seasons (Magi vs Deka for Sen-chan, and Ohre vs Kaku for Jiraiya). And that means Kenta's would be the Maskman finale. Digifiend 20:55, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Right. I'm not insistant on that, I mean they DID fight in the Legend War. But I think the question of did they actually appear in the war (even though we know they fought), is what should dictate whether it should be 199 or not. Nbajammer 23:26, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I may, I think you really should consider the in-suit appearance as well. The series made it clear that every legend we've seen fought in the war along with all the rangers and a specific list of Bangai heroes. My view is we should list them as such. Though I agree with saying "Legend War" as opposed to say 'the film' or 'the first episode'.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:00, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * So do we have a concensus that the 199 heroes of the film's title all made their last appearance in the Legend War, except where they appeared in a Gokaiger episode after episode 16 (in which case that later episode would be the last appearance)? Until Super Hero Wars is out anyway. Digifiend 19:55, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, go for it. Makes things less confusing too. Newbies won't wonder how come we didn't list yellow mask as last appearing in 2011 when they saw her kikcing Gormin can-heads. :) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:29, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

I don't view it that way - if we don't SEE them, they technically didn't APPEAR. That is in light of the fact that we know they fought in the war. For instance, did we SEE Yellow Mask fight in the Legend War, or do we simply KNOW she did? Changing them all to Legend War or the 199 movie will make things considerably confusing, since people would say 'I saw the 199 movie and I didn't see where (insert name of ranger) appeared!'. Then you'd have edit wars, revert wars, people changing other articles on the same principles and one heck of a mess to clean up. I don't think we want to open that can of worms. Nbajammer 17:21, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's always that screen where AkaRed first lands in the sentai pile (where Alata is front and center. Pretty sure you can double check there. See it supports the logic that all the rangers turned into keys.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:20, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying they didn't fight in the war - I'm saying did they really APPEAR in it. For example, if you look at the Legend Shift page you will see past senshis that APPEARED in Gokaiger. They weren't represented in morphed form out of convenience, or to tell a story. They actually showed up. During the Great Legend War we know the rangers all fought, and we saw them all morphed. However it was there for the purpose of telling a story - explaining why the rangers don't have their powers and how the Gokaigers received their Ranger Keys. Thus technically it is NOT an appearance, and really should'nt be stated as such. Maybe that'll make more sense to you. Nbajammer 20:25, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:sentaiformation.jpg|630px]]
 * Not what I said. Re-read what I wrote. There is a difference between a character appearing, and a character being present for the purposes of telling a story. I did not say they did not fight in the war. Nbajammer 20:43, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was still typing after I posted the image. I get what you're saying. But if we (in effect) say that say Yellow Mask or MammothRanger didn't appear in the legend war (by not stating it as the last appearance), then that also negates their ranger forms appearing. I'll simplify if. Even a cameo appearance is still an appearance. Let's just stick to keeping them listed.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:45, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * But we're not saying they didn't appear in the war. It clearly states that in the article itself! I'll use Yellow Mask as an example. Her last stated appearance was in the The Great Gathering of 11 Sentai: The Glorious Opening Collection - and yet in the article it says "Years later, Haruka fought alongside not only her own team, but every single Sentai ranger in existence, against the Empire of Zangyack when it attacked the Earth in the Great Legend War. After fighting against hundreds of Gormin and their Zgormin commanders. Kaijou noticed the fleet moving towards them, he gathered all the Rangers together and gave them the order to sacrifice their powers to wipe out the first invasion's armada." - In other words, the last time her character made an appearance, it was in that collection however her character was also present for the Legend War. Did we see Yellow Mask prominently in the war? No. None made a prominent appearance except Akaranger (whose last appearance would be the 199 movie). However the article still states she was present for it. Nbajammer 20:53, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why her infobox should state her last appearance is the war. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 21:04, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm done trying, and done repeating myself. You clearly refuse to understand. I'm trying to help make this wiki resourceful, informative, and clean and you want to invent appearances without considering the reasonable rebuttal given to you. So, do whatever you want. I'm done getting it thrown in my face. Nbajammer 21:07, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Look, I wasn't trying to 'throw anything' in your face. I'm merely stating that appearances AND cameo appearances are to be stated. I'm confused because you said you weren't insistent. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 21:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am going to say this one more time, none of them APPEARED in the war. Their character was present for the purpose of EXPLAINING something. You did not see Yellow Mask show up and start fighting Gormin. You did not see MammothRanger suddenly show up and start fighting. They did not APPEAR in the war. They were present for the war for the purpose of explanation - that is not an appaearance, and is not a cameo either. You did not see the actor or actress show up on-screen at all. This is why DragonRanger and TimeFire are not legends in episode 18 despite them being shown in the dream sequence. The story of the war is that every ranger fought Zangyack and sacrificed their powers. The fact that they fought in the war is stated clearly in the articles of the rangers themselves, but the characters themselves did not show up. This is like the 4th or 5th time I have stated this. You even said you get what I'm saying. If you get what I'm saying, then you know there's a difference between being present in a scene, and an appearance by the character. I even provided links to articles here on the wiki to illustrate the difference between an appearance, where the character is seen on-screen and plays a role in a given episode and a character being present to explain an event that we are not watching unfold as-it-happens. Thus the rangers did not APPEAR in the Legend War and thus it is NOT an appearance (cameo or otherwise). How many times do I need to repeat myself before you can see that listing the war as a last appearance is WRONG? But like I said, do whatever you want. If you are going to invent appearances, then I'm done contributing to the wiki if it will push out false information. Nbajammer 21:50, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as insistance, I was replying to Digifiend thusly,

''I understand what you're saying. So you think that Tsuruhime's would be her Gokaiger episode, Umeko's would be 199 Hero, but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be the VS movies for the following seasons (Magi vs Deka for Sen-chan, and Ohre vs Kaku for Jiraiya). And that means Kenta's would be the Maskman finale. Digifiend 20:55, January 26, 2012 (UTC)''

''Right. I'm not insistant on that, I mean they DID fight in the Legend War. But I think the question of did they actually appear in the war (even though we know they fought), is what should dictate whether it should be 199 or not. Nbajammer 23:26, January 26, 2012 (UTC)''

In other words, I'm not insistant that it be 199. But I also stated, as you can see, that they did fight in the war - but the question is did they appear or not, and as I've stated several times now, they did not. The rangers were shown fighting in a past event via flashback. We saw the rangers fighting, but we saw Yellow Mask for all of what, 30 seconds? Less? What role did Yellow Mask play in the war? None, she fought and that's it. That's why I replied to Digifiend that Tsuruhime's should be Gokaiger 45, Akaranger's and Umeko's should be 199 but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be their VS movies because they played no role in the war other than to fight in it. They were shown there for convenience, to explain a plot point. Nbajammer 22:10, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * You did just say they were shown. It doesn't matter why or for how long. But they were in it. You yourself said "they were shown there for convenience". Being shown and having appeared- same thing. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:27, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. I said the character was present for the war. I showed you the difference between the appearance of a character, and the fact that it is shown for another reason. Show me where Haruka appears in the war. We see her for all of 30 seconds if that and not again. She's not there as part of the plot, but you seem to believe otherwise so show me. Show me where Yuki Nagata appears. She doesn't. You're just never going to get it, despite claims to the contrary. I'm done with this arguement. Do whatever you want, I won't contribute to this wiki anymore due to it pushing out false information. I try to help, and I get it thrown in my face when I point out a fatal flaw in a proposed action. Nbajammer 22:35, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * We see her for all of 30 seconds is an appearance. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:51, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * So explain to me how DragonRanger and TimeFire are not Legends for episode 18. Tell me why all 6 Goseigers and all 6 Shinkengers are not Legends for 40. Answer is rather simple - they're there in order to explain the story, the same as Yellow Mask. Thus Yellow Mask DID NOT APPEAR. Why are you taking something so blatantly obvious and trying to start drama over it, especially after admitting you got what I was explaining to you? Why? Even Digifiend - another administrator like yourself - saw exactly what I was saying! Are you trying to cause problems on this wiki? I think you need to review the information I've given you and you will see it is obviously clear it is NOT an appearance. Nbajammer 23:00, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Facepalm. I never even mentioned DragonRanger and TimeFire. Those are also cameo appearances and should be listed as such. I am not trying to start drama over anything. Try reading both our responses and see who's being dramatic. My suggestion for you, is that you modify the sentairangerinfobox to to include 'full appearances' and 'cameoapperances'. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:06, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did not say you mentioned them. But if Yellow Mask appeared in the Legend War, then by the same principles DragonRanger and TimeFire would be legends. You are trying to start drama because as I've pointed out to you, what you claim is an appearance is in fact NOT an appearance, and as I stated multiple times this page proves that. Every one on that page made an appearance. Yellow Mask clearly did not. But you don't want to believe that. You are being dramatic by throwing it back in my face that your opinion is correct, when the evidence suggests otherwise. I am trying to show you how you are wrong, but you do not want to recognize that. And if you truly had gotten what I was saying, as you said above, then we wouldn't be having this conversation and you would agree it was not an appearance. Nbajammer 23:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * You have to understand that you also did say that I don't view it that way - if we don't SEE them, they technically didn't APPEAR.  and there's an image right there. Anyway, the Sentairangerinfo template has been updated to include, that should solve the issue. See TimeFire and Burai's pages.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:28, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

That's right. You don't see Yuki Nagata at all, whereas you do see Runa Natsui, Ayumi Kinoshita, et al. That's where the difference lies. Nbajammer 23:33, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The new value input for the Sentai rangers' infoboxes can solve the issue. Just list all the 199-only rangers as lastcameos. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:40, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it need to be manually edited in? Or is it part of the template itself? Nbajammer 23:42, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * As it is, you'll have to type "lastcameo=" then the episode name in the infoboxes for each ranger. But there is already a provision that it lists it under the "Last Full Appearance". So far only Burai and TimeFire have it. You can see how it works there.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:44, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention, it's also structured so that if the last appearance of a ranger is a full appearance, you need not add a last cameo appearance at all, like, say for Kaoru Shiba.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:58, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Fan work
Guys, I feel we need to do something about fan work on the wiki. There are some posts here that I'm concerned will do nothing but further diminish the credibility of the site. Even blog posts that claim 'actors sign on for fan films' or 'upcoming seasons' have to be dealt with. The blogs here are for the use of editors of the wiki. But if people just come in and claim a corner for fan work well there's other places to do that. If no admin has any objections, I'd like to crack down on fan work and 'mascot-users' (those acting like characters from PR/sentai). There are wikis SPECIFICALLY for ranger-related fan work and this is not it. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 19:01, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. To tell the truth, I'm fed up seeing the Recent Activity page littered with blog posts for a Trakeena based fanfic season. Let's have a clearout. This is where fanfics belong. Or http://www.fanfiction.net. Not here. Digifiend 20:47, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Absent admins
I know Ozu Miyuki has been labelled as inactive, but there's two other inactive admins as well - NXT-Inspire and Serpen. NXT's profile for some reason redirects to Serpen's, that shouldn't have happened IMHO. When Dchallofjustice was absent, Ozu took away his admin abilities, which were restored a few months ago. Should we similarly strip NXT and Serpen of their powers? They haven't been here since 2008 and 2009 respectively. I can't do this myself, as apparently, I'm the only sysop who isn't also a bureaucrat. Digifiend 20:05, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should, but we should also leave a message in each's talk pages assuring them that their adminships would be restored upon reentry. The reason being that when you access the true admin page, there are more names than there should be. As far as your bureaucrat status, since Digi brought you in, you should speak to him about a request for bureau status. Serpen was the one who brought me in, but since he was unavailable, and there were no longer-staying than I, I had to ask Digi for mine, given that he's the active bureaucrat.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:20, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I already knew about your rights upgrade as I was notified about it in an automated email, that's what prompted me to check the ListUsers Special page in the first place. Digifiend 20:31, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Already worked on the absent admins pages. I didn't look into it but maybe when NXT left he redirected his pages to Serpen so that he could 'take the calls'.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:40, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki shortcuts
Sometimes the w:c: in an Interwiki shortcut isn't necessary (heh, it pays to keep an eye on other wikias). I copied a page over from the Tardis wiki which explains this - Help:Interwiki shortcuts, with a few minor edits to fix links and such. At the moment, it's labelled as being originally from the Doctor Who wiki, but if we can re-contextualise it in relation to PR or SS, then that disclaimer could be removed. So far, five wikis are known to have global interwiki shortcuts - tardis (Doctor Who), community (Wikia Communiity Central), memoryalpha (Star Trek), starwars, and powerrangers. Yes, I tested it, we have a global shortcut. All of the original 100 wikias should apparently have them, but the guys at Tardis wiki haven't identified them yet. It's also possible to have a local shortcut made on request from the Wikia staff - Tardis has one for the Muppet wiki. Might be a good idea for us to get similar links for metalheroes and kamenrider. Digifiend 15:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Rollerbackers
Guys, I've added two rollerbackers to the site. They've been on my shortlist for a while of people whose wiki behavior I've been considering. There was one other who'd recently proven to not be ideal, and there was another who's quite able but I'm not quite sold on the number of edits just yet. I've given them a month to prove they can handle the rollback, and after that they're off my 'watch list' but of course any of us admins have the ability to remove the rollback with good reason. Here are our new rollerbackers - MrSmartyMax and MrThermomanPreacher. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 16:29, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ranger Names
Supersaiyanbatman will be on a lot of sentai-related pages to fix the rangers' names/ranger designations from CamelCase to the correct spaced spellings. Please bear with him as he makes the changes. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 10:40, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Following up on that, all OFFICIAL, referenced/cited romanized names will be recorded in Style Guide/Sentai Spellings.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 11:55, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone posted a scan on Rangerboard confirming that Nick Chida is actually called Cheeda Nick, so I added that to the Go-Busters section of the Ranger designation style guide. Digifiend 20:52, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Found another one through Wikipedia. Seems it's Buddyloid, not BuddyRoid. Another one to add to the style guide? http://p-bandai.jp/fashion-net/character/gobusters/item-1000014834 <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 00:10, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the L vs. R in Japanese debate again...Might have to see how they actually pronounce it in the show<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 03:18, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Zord Pages
I have a proposal for the zord/Megazord pages. There's really some bits that we leave out when we do grouped pages and even subgroups can get confusing. My suggestion is let's bring back the Zord pages with the full list, but this time as a category, instead of just being a list page. Then have the possibility for separate pages under each.

The reason I can't seem to let this go is even the original sentai pages list them individually and we have thrice (or more) as much info, plus we can have categorization on our side if done right. Having both an organized list/category page (where the descriptions and combos will be) and individual pages (where the stats and history will be) will allow more congruence to the wiki and less hassle for redirects.

Also this should satisfy both the ones who need an orderly set of zords in one hand and those that wanna do quick lookups of zord history (like say 3-piece Megazords or train zords), eliminating the need for random trivia. I hope you guys will be better okay with this than the complete revert I suggested before. I just think organizing zords the way we organize rangers would help us be a more 'lookup'-based wiki.

I also propose to have the zord's battle system listed as a template below each zord's page. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 15:59, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely a good idea, and we do need consistency between sentai and PR mecha pages. I say go ahead. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:27, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can't really say that I know exactly what you're getting at, but how about testing it on Gingaioh? Seeing as that is what was next on my Mecha to do list, it only makes sense to use it as the test. DigiRanger  03:53, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * sure. Was thinkiN of trying it out on mecha first anyways.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 05:32, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
I'm noticing more and more categories being made that really serve no purpose. I think the whole concept is getting out of control and should be reigned in. I realize that some of the categories exist to make navigation easier, and those are fine. But it is like categories are being made for any and every possible grouping of characters, making things harder to keep track of. Could we possibly get this system overhauled soon? Every time I turn around someone is adding some category or categories to every ranger page out there. Nbajammer 23:20, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that whole "Unique Ranger" category seemed to have been done while I was eating, but when I got back I eliminated it. The "Power Rangers Heroine" category now no longer exists with Female Rangers taking it's place in favor, given that DC had already transferred all the info over and not all rangers on that list were good. If you can think of any others, please state them. DigiRanger  00:28, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I feel like we don't even need those gender categories.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:25, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Style Guide
Guys, check out the Style Guide. See if you can add, correct, suggest. :) - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 18:15, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirecting off wiki doesn't work (just takes me to the redirect page) so I removed the part about the Tsukasa Kadoya redirect. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 21:32, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dang. It was supposed to. I'll see what I can do.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:10, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * We are supposed to translate transformation calls, aren't we? I ask because Shinkenger's was just changed to English on the Transformation Sequences page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:36, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I guess a compromise would be to include the original Japanese and romanization. But keeping it in its original serves no purpose for the English-language reader.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 04:48, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

I want to apologize for not being here, as I was the one who proposed this for Sentai stuff, but I wanted to say something about Shinkenger: It's kinda confusing not having the phrase they say during their transformation listed there. Write Ippitsu Soujo and Ikkan Kenjou the way we do other Japanese text around the wiki. Well...I think it may just work if you use the Japanese word they say first to be uniform on the page, because "Ikkan Kenjou" is, if I recall, a strange thing to translate and no one has a consistent (haha) translation that people use. That's just me though. Same would go for Dairanger. Again, I apologize for not being here, I'm gonna try to get some stuff done this weekend to make up for it. Supersaiyanbatman 07:12, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lunagel
Can someone delete the Heavenly Saint Lunagel redirect so the Lunagel page can be moved there? Heavenly Saint Lunagel is her proper name, and I think that Lunagel would be better served as a redirect to that page. But because the page already exists, I cannot move it over redirect. Nbajammer 20:07, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just moved it, overwriting the redirect in the process. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 21:21, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. Told me page already exists when I tried to do it myself. Nbajammer 21:24, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Gold Mode
The Gold Mode links for Gokai Silver are a mess all over the wiki. Some link to a picture of it on Gai's page. Some link to the Ranger Keys page where it talks about Gold Mode with the Anchor Key. This would be too much to clean up without some form of consensus. Gold Mode does not warrant its own page, we shouldn't link to a gallery on Gai's page as it isn't descriptive, and we probably don't want to link to the Ranger Keys page even though it talks about Gold Mode there. The Gold Mode page redirects to the Ranger Keys page, and some people are making the Gold Mode link to the gallery. How should we fix this? Move the Gold Mode section to Gai's page, change the redirect on Gold Mode and re-do the links? Change the links back to Gold Mode (sans the space)? Create a new page? Nbajammer 05:53, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Technically, it's a ranger form. We should link it to Gai's "Gokai Silver" section and have those tabbed ranger form thingys we now have (like on Jayden's page). You're right. It shouldn't link to anything else. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 06:29, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Why are so many pages locked?
Ok, I'm new here, so forgive my ignorance, but why are so many pages here locked? A lot of them are in desperate need of fixing and could easily be fixed. If you're worried about vandalism, then why not just make them semi-protected so only registered users can change them? -- Iwearafeznow 16:49, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * They're protected that way. Thing is, it also includes "very new" registered users. It's kind of a package. The higher traffic pages are done that way. Usually new users can develop their profiles and add to lesser-traffic pages for a few rounds then see if the pages are open to them already. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 17:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see. Thanks. -- Iwearafeznow 17:09, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

"You've been banned" template
What do you think of this idea? If someone gets banned, we place a template on their talk page explaining why they've been banned and for how long. I saw something similar on the Logopedia wiki. I could port it across to here, and we could use it as it is, or Rangerfy it by changing the text and accompanying graphic. Here it is: BlockNotice <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:03, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:11, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion error
Just got an error message when trying to delete a duplicated image (File:Air-Earth-Water Tribe Megazord.jpg: Error deleting file: Could not create directory "deleted/7/5/f". <a href="/index.php?title=Special:Contact&wpContactProblem=Bug:Directory+permission+error">Please report the above error using this form</a> Any idea what went wrong? Here's the other/additional reason I used: Clone of File:TSG-Sky Land Sea Gosei Great.jpg. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:31, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. I have a different error. I can't seem to edit the mediawiki page for the expanded menu. It's stuck on preview.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 15:53, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation, yes? That one I can solve. If the text is too wide to fit on one row, you get an error message, which means you need to go back and edit the text. That's why I altered it slightly a couple of weeks ago just after you enabled it, the text ported over from the old layout didn't fit. What was you trying to do? Was you simply planning to change the Gokai and Busters entries, since Gokaiger will no longer be "now airing" in a few hours? Or was it something more extensive, like adding sub-menus? <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:47, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I realize this isn't the sub-heading for this, but if you're going to make changes to the navigation could we get a link to the Style Guide there for easy reference while editing? Nbajammer 19:50, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny thing- THAT's excatly what I was gonna do- add the style guides. LOL. The prob, Digifriend, is not that I get an error when I go back, there's not even a "publish" button at all. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:57, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I managed to delete the Image, so I guess the problem must have just existed on both of your computers or something. DigiRanger  01:34, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Digi. Christophe, click on Preview, and on the popup, there should be two choices, Back, and Publish, just like when previewing on any other page. Apparently previewing is mandatory in the MediaWiki namespace. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:41, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia and Unsourced Statements
I seriously think we need to cut down on trivia. We just had two users who came in almost EXCLUSIVELY to add trivia to every page. Please let's talk about what to cut down. I'd like the admins, rollerbackers and regulars to chime in.

I suggest we remove number trivia unless they're BIG firsts- like Kaoru Shiba is the first ever Red female Sentai Ranger or blah blah is the first 10-piece mecha. No to race, number, color trivia or ones that refer to what zord, animal or motif something is based on. Also I suggest removing all uncited material (if you wanna keep it on, have a cite) in trivia and production area.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  15:53, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I became very concerned that Pikatwig was only here to farm badges - he certainly alluded as much on User:MrThermomanPreacher's talk page, but I was hesitant to revert some of the edits because they could be seen as constructive. Glad that has been taken care of. But this sort of thing is honestly why I don't like the idea of having achievements on wikis - because anyone can edit them, and even the smallest edits count, this sort of thing will happen. Hopefully we can further restrict the requirements for them, or even get rid of them given these sorts of things happen. As far as trivia, I agree with those suggestions - and number, color, or motif trivia should also be limited exclusively to BIG references (such as the Kaoru reference above). Race should never be in trivia, ever. I think commonly-known, uncited material should stay - but if it is something not commonly known then it should be cited or removed. Which is why I told Pikatwig, if you have to add the Citation Needed at the same time as the trivia, it shouldn't be posted (gives a hint that it's false, and if it was true it likely would already be there - had he cited it at the same time, it would have been alright). More thoughts possibly later once I wake up. Nbajammer 19:40, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I made (or rather, copied from Wikipedia) the Citation Needed template as a way of requesting citations for existing unsourced material, not a way to justify adding things that aren't true to the wiki. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:51, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, so far I've been seeing things constructively come out of having badges, so I wouldn't count 'em out yet. But I do think we should start trimming down. Besides, if the info's legit, someone'll step in eventually to add it anyway. Any other stuff we need taken down?-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:00, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Go-Onger
Most places, I see the series romanized as "Go-Onger". Lots of other sites use "Go-onger", "Go Onger", "Go onger", "GoOnger", and so forth. Merchandise leaves it ambiguous, even though it's spelled right it isn't capitalized properly. On the Style Guide, we list it as Go-Onger. People are continuing to use the lower case all over the wiki, and while I'm correcting the oversight people keep reverting it back.

Why Go-Onger is correct:


 * Go-Onger is a play on the words "Go On"
 * Go-Onger looks more professional than Go-onger
 * Go and On are treated as seperate words and are hyphenated, so On should be capitalized
 * It is part of the title of the show, and thus should be capitalized
 * It is commonly used on the wiki as Go-Onger/Go-On (insert color or team here)

Therefore, like the Style Guide says, it should be listed as "Go-On Red" and "Go-On Wings" rather than "Go-on Red" and "Go-on Wings". Can we make some kind of formal announcement of this? I may have to start including the Style Guide in the reason so people will leave it be. Nbajammer 19:01, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've just altered the navigation bar to include a drop down list of all the Style Guide pages. I hope that helps. If we have a confirmed romanization, make sure it's on the Sentai Spellings style guide page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:32, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's just me, but I am still seeing the "old" navigation bar - the one that says Gokaiger is now airing, even though I know it was changed recently. Nbajammer 19:36, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's under the Community heading. DigiRanger  23:52, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why I don't see it. I'm on Monobook, which I prefer to the new skin. Nbajammer 23:59, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. You might have to remind me now and then, whenever Monobook needs updating. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:35, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Monobook isn't showing the Style Guide(s), fyi. Nbajammer 01:03, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now. I just made some major changes to the Monobook navigation menu so that it now has most of the same links as the New Wikia Look navbar. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 12:35, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * One final request, if I may - can we move the for editors section up above the Super Sentai one so it's easier to find/see? Other than that, Monobook looks great and I think it will be very useful for its users. I will try to help point out any would-be issues with it when I can. Nbajammer 18:02, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that'll work. One thing though, you may have to remind us from time to time if there are changes to be made for monobook as it seems like all the admins are on New Wikia.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:17, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Gokai Updates
Since Gokaiger's over, isn't it about time we start focusing on updating their character profiles?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 06:21, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? They're always open for expansion. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 06:30, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Episode Titles
I have a proposal to make for our Episode editors, if the other admins agree. Perhaps we can change the way we title episodes to include episode numbers at least. It'll provide a much better context to an article when we know something or someone came in early in a season, mid-season or further along the line. Also some sentai episodes have special episode designations like Mission (Go-Busters) or Epic (Goseiger) or Act (Shinkenger). Those that don't we can stick to Ep 01, 02 etc. What do you guys say? I plan on doing this to Kamen Rider episodes (those haven't started yet) but I'll only make sure it happens here if Digi and Digifriend are in support. It'll give our episode guys somethin' to organize too.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  13:45, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, including the episode numbers in the format used on the show is definitely a good idea. Production codes when known could also be used, as it would identify anything aired out of order (for example, Power Rangers episodes Wormhole and Origins). My username doesn't have an R in it by the way, Christophe. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 18:33, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh wow. It really doesn't! LOL. Sorry about that. Wow, after all this time, I never realized. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 18:51, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean retitling the pages or just like template updates along with renaming the episode lists featured on the episode guides and season pages? DigiRanger  00:46, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think both would be good, since it's better to have the "episode" on the infoboxes be linkable.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:34, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. <span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 01:47, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Huh? The next and previous episodes on the infobox are already linkable. I assumed you was just talking about a template modification to add the episode numbers to the infobox. By the way, should the previous episode on a Sentai premiere be the finale of the previous Sentai? That's how it was done on Special Mission Task Force, Assemble!, listing the previous episode as Farewell Space Pirates. But each Sentai series is technically a new show, unlike Power Rangers. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Megazord disambiguation pages + Franchise terminology
Hey, I was going to ask about if pages referring to 'MegaZords' in Go-Busters were going to be created before DC went ahead and did so, but now that it's there I think we should have a disambiguation page, because now we have multiple pages using the word and it may get confusing for people coming here and not knowing what we use for what. For example, someone might type in the way we render Go-Busters' giant robos name (MegaZord) while looking for either the MMPR Megazord or a general list of PR ones, not the giant robots of Go-Busters. I also noticed the category page for the PR Megazords doesn't have anything after RPM, or at least I didn't see it.

Second thing I wanted to mention was that I think we should have consistent franchise terminology on our wiki, and by that I mean, calling Sentai transformation devices "Changers" because, 'Henshin' Device doesn't do anything for the random Joe who doesn't know anything about Tokusatsu and just stumbles upon here because of Power Rangers and comes across a Sentai article. Transformation device is clunky and too long, but changer's been used before officially and is a good general term for the devices. For Mecha/Giant Robo for Sentai, I'd try to figure out which one is more commonly used, pick one and stick with it. Ranger is a non-issue, because while they sometimes call them Warriors(Senshi) or Heroes as a general term, both franchises have had their heroes called "Rangers" since the beginning.

Any thoughts? Supersaiyanbatman 01:44, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The word henshin is already banned, per Style Guide/Japanese Language, so yeah, "henshin device" definitely shouldn't be used. Mecha is a zord, Robo is a Megazord, so both should still be used. Sentai only made Ranger the standard in Gokaiger. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarification on the robot names. The ranger thing however I dunno about...
 * Goranger, Turboranger, Zyuranger, Dairanger, Kakuranger, Ohranger, Carranger, Megaranger, Timeranger, Gaoranger, Abaranger, Hurricaneger, Dekaranger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, Go-Onger, Shinkenger, Goseiger, Gokaiger. Sometimes when they have events and have English on their signs, they have "Sentai" replaced with "Ranger" so it reads "Super Ranger". So...
 * Supersaiyanbatman 02:00, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealt with the Megazord category. Added Samurai's Megazords to the list, along with a disambig link to Category:MegaZords, which is the Go-Busters MegaZords page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:06, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we could just do with the quick quips on the Megazord and MegaZord pages that say "for the other thing, see..." since the variance occurs only on those two pages. Everything else is named (like MegaZord Beta). Digifiend's right, Rangers WAS just standardized in Gokaiger, so at least now we have a catch-all term. We don't necessarily have to check each series for what they're called. Also agreeing with Digifiend's equivalences. Mecha=Zord, Robo=Megazord. We don't have terms for a Battlezord in Sentai so mecha and robo both apply depending on mode. We have "0.5 Robo" for an undesignated Zord type in PR (which essentially in PR is only Red Dragon anyway).-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:09, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just realized we might need a new Style Guide page for these franchise names and catch-all terms. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:14, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

The changer thing? I bring it up since 'Morpher' isn't a term really used by anyone else other than Power Rangers. Sentai tends to use Changer more often than the others. The other common names for their transformation items are either "Braces" for the wrist warn ones or something regarding phones. Either Transformation Cellphone (Henshin Keitai) or "Phone" in English or both. And if you make a style guide for franchise terms, what else should we include that we haven't spoken of already? Supersaiyanbatman 02:20, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * No new page needed. This can be covered on the Style Guide/Naming Conventions and Redirects page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:23, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, got it. Still need to know if there's anything else we should list other than what we've discussed here, though. Supersaiyanbatman 02:26, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, you're right Digifiend. SSB, I've always supported the changer issue. No worries there. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:29, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added a section to Style Guide/Naming Conventions and Redirects that refers to franchise names. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:44, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sentai Numbered Rangers
I saw lml editing the numbered rangers and this got me thinking. Is there an actual ranking? There isn't right? And as I was typing this I saw that Digifiend had a similar issue with 4th rangers. I propose we just discard this set of categories as they don't have any bearing really, other than being precedent to 6th rangers, which don't necessarily have to be number 6 anyway. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  03:03, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. The teams I mentioned, Carranger and Dekaranger, have green as number 3, but because GokaiGreen is Gokaiger's supposed fourth (we only have roll call order to determine that), they too were classed as fourth, which is incorrect. You're right, Gokaiger, and the majority of past seasons, do not have numbered rankings. So instead of trying to fix it, let's get rid. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 03:14, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I seem to have admin privilages on a wiki I've never heard of
Got an email in my inbox, about it being ten days (two days ago) since I started "Playskool Wiki". "Whoa, time flies! It's already been 10 days since you started Playskool Wiki." I did no such thing. Check this: it says I'm an admin (not the Founder, confirming the email was erroneous), but I have no edits! I'm not the only one in that situation. Anyone know how I can report the founder? They shouldn't be giving away admin powers without getting permission, I have no interest in Playskool toys. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 00:47, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's just a category of people as far as I can tell - when I went to Special Pages: User List, it did not show you as an admin, bureaucrat, or sysop. Your name wasnt even on the list. Nbajammer 01:12, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * How strange. Maybe it's an email glitch. Or maybe someone REALLY REALLY trusts you so much they just had to admin you up. Haha. :) Well, since Nbajammer didn't see your name in the sysop list, it's probably an e-mail bot error. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:23, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at this. It's like it was created with the Administrators template and then just filled in as if it were a blank page. Nbajammer 02:50, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not on the User List because I have zero edits. Look at the link where I put "Check this" above. It takes you to my profile page there, showing that I am an admin. I just don't understand why. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 17:48, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

That page exists because another user made it - not because you're an admin. Nbajammer 00:15, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

What do we call non-Super Sentai sentai shows?
Okay, so Sentai shows cover everything that's got a sentai in it, like Voicelugger, but in this board we use Sentai as a short form of Super Sentai. Now I don't suggest overhauling the board just so we can use Sentai for unofficial stuff, but at the same time, because of how we use the term unofficial (given Akibaranger) we'll need a new operational term for everything regarding Voicelugger, Sport Ranger, France Five and whatever else.

On another topic a page has been created for Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, which is a 'sentai' by Japanese standards but in no way 'sentai' by wiki standards (which covers 'Super Sentai' and 'super sentai-like' stuff). Think we should keep it? I'm on the fence about it, but I lean towards 'it's ok to keep'. What do you guys think on both counts? - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  01:59, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Is there any chance we're going to edit the Gokaiger episodes to include "Ep. #" in their titles anytime soon.
 * Changing the episode titles is a free-for-all task. If you have the time and are working on particular episodes anyway, go ahead and do so. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 16:50, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * They are often called Tokusatsu so maybe that is what we should call them. I say keep Pretty Guardians Sailor Moon Regemet 17:03, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree on both counts. The other Saban shows also fit into that category. By the way, an article has been made for Space Crime Syndicate Makuu. I think this and and other Metal Heroes related pages such as Retsu Ichijouji should have Metal Heroes wiki headers, like the Kamen Rider pages here have for their wiki. I've copied the necessary code to Template:ArticleMH but the images don't exist or at least don't have filenames that match their KR counterparts, so that'll need to be updated before we can use it. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:09, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed on Metal Heroes, Digifiend. Regemet, we can't call them Tokusatsu because then that'll include even KR, Gransazer, Ultraman and the like. We need a word for Super Sentai-like tokusatsu. How about "Non-sentai"? "Pseudo-sentai"?. "Sentai-like"? seems odd.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:21, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

What shows would we count as "Sentai-like", I know Voicelugger, France Five, PGSM, and Sport Ranger would count, but are there any others? Dont Be a Sad Panda 01:18, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Those and a few others. They just sort of come out of the woodwork from archives of past Japanese shows. I'd technically not count PGSM if it weren't for the deliberate attempt to structure it as a sentai-like show. I'm leaning towards pseudo-sentai, btw -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:25, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Holiday
Just a warning that I'm going away to visit relatives in Norwich for a few days. Will be back home on Thursday, but I'll try to get online while I'm away. No promises though. So if I don't come here, at least you know why. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:39, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, you had a vacation as well? Well, that just makes me wish I knew Dc's username on the boards so that I could have given him the same information I e-mailed to you. DigiRanger  01:21, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Epilepsie
Yesterday I tried to find images off your picture archives and could not because I got 2 impending siezure warnings this is one of the reasons I often repeat download so I do not risk an epileptic siezure.Regemet 04:45, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seizures. Don't repeat download. Use the existing images. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 04:53, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

New Category Style
I've set categories on the new option for viewing all as sortable. Let me know if you guys think it's better or not. -- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  16:15, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The new-look categories are borked on Monobook. The pages have no information on them. Thought you would want to know. Nbajammer 23:07, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Power Rangers Questions
The Power Rangers Answers site that's connected to this one is currently a gigantic mess... I'm doing my best to contain and answer questions, and sort the children who are posting random thoughts and immature stuff, but since I can't delete questions, I was wondering what can be done?

Binaryravenx 23:27, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does anyone see the value in that area anyway? -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki '' [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:08, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * For a while I thought it was a portion of this wiki that had gone 'rogue' (and therefore could be fixed, or if no one 'cared', removed) but as it turns out powerrangers.answers.wikia.com is led by an entirely different team. Can't help you there. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki '' [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 12:06, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Using 'See Also' properly
I think we should start using 'See Also' instead of 'Trivia' for characters with similarities, as long as they're not whole giant groups. Like say the Mike article should present see also Cam (Green Samurai Ranger) or Ran's page can have a 'see also' that has Red Buster. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki ''  13:08, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. For disambiguations at least, such as the Green Samurai Rangers, and the Mikes (Hector's character needs two disambigs!). We should probably make a template for Names The Same examples like those. But why would GekiYellow and Red Buster need such a link? All they have in common is the cheetah motif. Nobody will confuse them. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 20:47, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I was talking more about how Wikipedia treats them as recommended reading. They're not really disambiguations but have similarities. Like reading suggestions, since they have some stuff in common. After all we're the only site I think that has a dedicated 'see' section that seems to always point to cross-culture cointerparts. Haha -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki '' [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Recommended reading
I found this article of interest: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Brandon_Rhea/Bringing_down_the_banhammer:_Best_practices_for_blocking

By the way, did you notice Wikia's logo has changed? <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:42, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds a lot like what we do, but it's a good thing to have on hand. Wikia's logo changed? LOL didn't notice. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki '' [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Adding Ranger Names to characters
I think we should add the Ranger names and colors to the characters of Super Sentai on their season's page. Example: Now if the character can not transform into a human (like Ninjaman, Gunmajin and Zubaan etc.), we can just keep them the same and have no Ranger name for them. Dont Be a Sad Panda 00:25, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree but shouldn't it perhaps just be in the place of the colored blocks? Instead of the 'based on' descriptions? (like instead of Cheetah, we put Red Buster) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yay but what about people like Shurikenger, Gosei Knight and Signalman, wouldn't it be wierd to have their names twice Dont Be a Sad Panda 02:08, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

This is what I mean But this is something I'd like to hear the other admins on first. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  02:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

What would be the point of this though. Having the name on ths side in parentheses is perfectly fine, not the name in the box<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 11:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, this would defeat the purpose of clicking through to the character's page. I agree to the extent that 1, 2, 3, 4...etc don't really fit the bill, but I would rather see us maintain consistency with those teams with motifs, where appropriate. And if we can't do that, then do something like the above. If we put all of this information on the season page, why then would we need character pages? Next thing you know, we should add (insert piece of info here) and then we lose the purpose. Nbajammer 11:46, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the reason lml brought it up is because neither in season pages nor team pages do we see what a character is called. In my case the reason I brought it up is because it gets super long when we have all of that plus the fact that not everything has a motif. Or perhaps we can compromise this way. Have the ranger names in boxes for seasons, while motifs stay in the team pages. And no i don't think there should be any worry that we'll be adding any other random info other than just the ranger names.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki '' [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 11:51, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your method would be more preferrable of the two in my eyes (as demonstrated above with Akarenger). Having the names in parentheses just adds clutter to the page and makes it harder to keep track of. I never did agree with the numberings (unless explicitly stated, like in Dekaranger), and nearly did this very thing myself awhile back. Nbajammer 11:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)