Talk:Admin Noticeboard/Archive 1

Feel free to ask the admins questions, propose ideas, report problems, etc. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 13:22, January 4, 2012 (UTC)

Power Rangers Answers
The Power Rangers Answers site that's connected to this one is currently a gigantic mess... I'm doing my best to contain and answer questions, and sort the children who are posting random thoughts and immature stuff, but since I can't delete questions, I was wondering what can be done?

Binaryravenx 23:52, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

For the Admins
I have two major revisions I would like to work on.

Each their own page
The other issue is something that I'm still battling myself on, because I don't wanna discount previous work. I think we should go back to having individual pages and be as detailed as we can on each.

Things that made me think this are certain zords that can form various combos (and honestly, each has their own story anyway) and also the realization that pages referencing groups can be categories, and numerical trivia can be eliminated (like this is the eight lion zord) etc by making better-written category pages.

Also there are too many things in Power Rangers and Super Sentai that can be categorized to limit. It would be nice to be able to click a page and see all the swords, or all the bazookas, or all the zords that were fliers, for example. If I was a newbie and wanted to see all the Ultrazords, I shouldn't be redirected to Titanus, but to Ultrazord's own page with a full history and detail.

Besides we have tons of character pages that are stubs, but I wouldn't suggest eliminating them either, for if someone did a character-centric episode review and placed it there, the page would have better content, and would be another step towards a more comprehensive wikia.

So, if everyone is on board with it, I think we should start being truly specific with zords and arsenal once more, also being better with building categories, all in the interest of being a more serachable, clickable wikia.

DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 13:48, January 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm going to be very skeptical here. There is simply not enough information on the majority of zords for them to merit their own pages. And having them under Arsenal or Zords (season) helps keep them together for easy reference. The Blue Unicorn Thunderzord...what could we say about it? It's...blue, and...shoots rocks. I mean, there's no way we can stretch that into a full page. Even the Tigerzord itself wouldn't merit a page on its own, nor could the Power Cannon or Shark Cycles. I'm going to vote no, and that we keep the Arsenal and Zord pages intact as they are. -- Gear [[image:ltest.png]] Richie, Admin (Talk) 04:34, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Tigerzord has seen multiple battles and I maintain that it's fine as is. Regarding most of the zords, a lot of them are based off of something- the Unicorn for example off the top of my head can have its stats (which the streamlining has removed), as well as its history as having been formerly Triceratops as well as where the design originated (an amalgam of the name Pegasus and its chinese correlation) as well as how it was translated into PR as unicorn. Not to mention its inclusion in the categories it can fall under. It may not be done for all the zords but certainly we shouldn't limit them. Now there ARE zords that are similar physically to each other and named as such, in those cases I agree that they can be grouped together, such as the Time Flyers. The wiki articles should be able to expand beyond simple descriptions and be open to a more in-depth look at each item and the ability to categorize. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 04:52, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure that this subject was covered on Gear-Richie's talk page wherein the decision was meet in the middle with the fleet of zords to be on the individual Megazord pages, like the current state of MMPR to Ninja Storm and Jungle Fury through Samurai Megazords. DigiRanger  05:14, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, but this suggestion was a step further. If no one feels the same way, I'm still good with the halfway thing. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:17, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Though I'm not admin on here, I feel compelled to stick my two cents in. We need to go off of facts when creating zord pages, not speculations and observations. Given that this is Power Rangers where you can breathe on the moon, however, that is open to debate. The decision will have to fall depending on the various series. Example-the Arsenal pages for MMPR were getting too big and there was alot of history behind them. However, recent series don't have as much history and information behind them to truly back up a page. So we may have to come down to making exceptions and re-building the Arsenal and Zord pages. Sorry Dc, but there is a requirement of hard information to back up pages, and we'll eventually be justifying having anon conttributors making pages for every single zord.Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 05:36, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hard facts should always be the priority of course. My comcern is that we don't have the allowances for certain items to have their comcrete history written in. I'm still actively jonesing for more people to properly use the storylink templates. Casual speculation and observation should be left off the table, no matter what the page.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:54, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I'm closing this particular inquiry. We won't be doing the individual pages. I'll need your input on the other suggestion.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:22, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm another regular contributor, and I'm with the others on this. There just isn't enough noteworthy material for individual pages for each and every zord. Ones like the Tigerzord that have a lot of story to them, or countless uses, I could probably see. But like with Gear-Richie's example, I don't see it working for every zord. Most of them nowadays definitely won't do. Nbajammer 07:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Merged Homepage
I was hoping we could get a merged Power Rangers/Super Sentai homepage, seeing as we treat both franchises with an equal great respect in terms of content. I was thinking perhaps we could have both in one page. My thoughts on it:


 * Two large icons, one for the current PR and another for the current sentai. Perhaps below the current PR is a small icon of the original sentai. These can serve as the larger portions of the homepage.
 * Smaller title logos of all (or would words be better) situated somewhere. One other idea I had is to have one column with the tiny icon of the franchise (say the Shiba icon) then have Shinkenger and Samurai as links beside.
 * Featured articles, which can change either daily or whenever we feel like.
 * Featured zords, megazords, rangers, weapons, episodes.
 * I'll need your input guys. DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:23, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Love this idea, at least in principle. Having 2 different main pages often can lead to confusion if someone is directed here for Sentai info but sees a Power Rangers main page, and vice versa. Though it is not the same as this wiki, perhaps you could look at the BioShock wiki and see how they do it. Their main page has a section for each of the main titles in the video game series, and you don't leave the main page to shift between them. Ours would not need to be so elaborate, per se - but it could work to change from PR to Sentai and back as desired. I'm not suggesting a mere copy/paste, but maybe it can be used as inspiration here. Nbajammer 07:27, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * That was some really good coding! I think we'll have a look at this.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 10:34, January 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just looked at the Bioshock link and I have to say I agree, that is a much more streamlined layout. We should definitely do something like that here. I also like the icon/names idea, which would take up less space. Our last redesign was when the Wikia layout changed from Monaco to the current one, which messed up the layout of the homepage, so it's only had minor tweaks in the last year. These changes should give the wiki a more professional image. Digifiend 16:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)


 * Also, we should have a monthy featured profile, as well as a board for announcements. Things like Kamen Rider vs. Super Sentai should be in a sort of "news" section, along with the announcement of Go-Busters. It's good to keep users of the wiki informed and have news up front. Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 22:11, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Toys
I'll be abandoning the idea of a sideways partner wiki JUST for the toys. As we are now, we can make good toyline pages within this wiki itself, so putting 'em up on Ranger Collector Wiki is not necessary. Perhaps we can do the same thing TF Wiki does by putting the toys on a subpage. Like Megazord/Megazord toys under Megazord for better organization.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 10:41, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

Admin Noticeboard
I would like to suggest perhaps placing a link on the left-hand navigation menu to the Noticeboard so we editors can come here to see what needs done, and reach this talk page quickly. The Guild Wars Wiki has such a link for its Admin Noticeboard, and I think it would be useful here as well. Also, I think the seasons box is redundant, especially given it only has 3 seasons on it and the new dual-purpose of the wiki. Nbajammer 04:21, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * We don't really have a left-hand menu on here but perhaps something can be done to the topmost menubar (which I plan on cleaning up as well). Which seasons box are you referring to?DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 05:28, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * On the left side of the screen there is a navigation bar, with links to "The Morphin Grid: A Power Rangers Wiki", "Sentai Section", "Episodeguide", "Recent changes", "Random page", and "Links". I was proposing we add a link to the Noticeboard there. Immediately below that is the seasons box. You might need to switch to MonoBook to see them. Nbajammer 05:32, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * I see (or I don't, so I'm gonna switch to Monobook. haha. I fixed our topmost menu, so that it contains all the relevant pages under Super Sentai and Power Rangers. It can only hold six subheaders at a time so I put in two series each and the popular searchables.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:07, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * For monobook, I fixed the seasons bar to cover currently airing PR and sentai and have added a 'for editors' section, which includes the admin noticeboard, and some other usual stuff.DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 06:25, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

I like it. Recent changes feels out of place down there, but that'll take getting used to. Love the new shows bar as well. Nice to have it all handy when on any given page so I can get back to where I need to be when I need to. Nice work Dc. Nbajammer 08:04, January 7, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice one Christophe. Digifiend 15:48, January 7, 2012 (UTC)

Unofficial Super Sentai - Akibaranger
"Tokumei Sentai Go-Busters is the official 36th Super Sentai Series, but TOEI decided to launch another Super Sentai series named Hikonin Sentai AkibaRanger (iterally: Unofficial Squadron). This "Unofficial Squadron" is not part of the official line of Super Sentai but is still called a Super Sentai anyway. Consider it an "EX Super Sentai". AkibaRanger will tell the story of three young people (a boy and two girls according to the picture) being part of an otaku club and living in the new "Electric-Town" Akihabara. They will have to fight a mysterious malevolent entity that swore to conquer Earth with cool gadgets created by a brilliant genius. The series starts in April 2012 but no actor has been announced or rumored yet. BANDAI also announced a toyline for this series."

So, do we include this new show on the wiki? Digifiend 19:32, January 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think we should. But perhaps it'll be in its own tiny area for now. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 19:40, January 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * The show started today, and I got a few large screenshots from 2chan, which I've placed into a gallery. They include the titlecard, eyecatch, two Legend team shots, the team pose, an attack, and part of the henshin. Digifiend 22:33, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just added three new images to the Akibaranger gallery, from episode 13. One is a shot of Hiroyo and Aoi together (Hiroyo had a microphone, so I think she may have been singing Heroic Lily), the other two are a clear full screen high resolution shot of the Akibaranger emblem (why couldn't we have had such an image three months ago?), and a cast and crew photo from the end credits (I wish oifficial seasons did that!). Digifiend 17:33, June 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * Can somebody add this on the page or confirm this? I just found this and I think it is good to be in the trivia section.http://rrrotoku.com/2012/08/13/akibaranger-web-radio-temp-episode-3-summary/4/
 * "Wada reveals that during pre-production, before much had been decided, one of the proposed titles was ‘Kaizoku-ban Sentai Gokaiger’ or ‘Pirate-Copy Sentai Gokaiger’."110.55.215.18 14:23, August 14, 2012 (UTC) Anonymous
 * That's confirmation that it was originally planned as Gokaiger spin-off, before becoming a independent series.

Potential Edit War
Might want to keep an eye on User:Jay Hawk and the pages he is editing - he seems to disagree with the changes the wiki is making and feels it's his call whether the page stays or is redirected to the Category page that links to all the articles. Gaeaman and myself have pointed this out to him, but he doesn't seem to care. Nbajammer 23:50, January 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think this is squared away now. I hope. Nbajammer 00:29, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep an eye on him. If he starts an edit war, we could ban him for a day, to allow us time to undo the changes and protect the articles in question. Persistent unconstructive edits would yield a longer ban. But hopefully that won't be necessary. Digifiend 01:02, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * You guys are much nicer than I am. Haha. But yes, let's keep a watchful eye. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 01:08, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

EX shows status
Ninja Captor and Akibaranger now have their place in the wiki among the Super Sentai stuff. Now given that their status is unofficial, any instance you see them have some sort of mark or reminder that they aren't a fixed part of Super Sentai. As such in the front page we have them listed as X (Ninja Captor), as it was stricken off the Sentai series, and EX (Akibaranger) as it is a special series. Just a reminder, treat them with the respect you would any sentai and PR series here on the wiki, but take care to ensure you have some sort of disclaimer on each show's status. - DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 18:23, January 12, 2012 (UTC)

Morphin Grid name change, Super Sentai Wikia
Guys, did you know that as far as wikia knew we were still Power Rangers Universe? Anyway, I already requested a SITENAME change to The Morphin Grid: The Power Rangers and Super Sentai Wiki which should reflect our dual nature.

On another note, Super Sentai wikia is still a budding site and they have a lot of coding issues still, but in the interest of 'oneness' I proposed to wikia to adopt the site (have it redirect to Morphin Grid) given that everything that they wish to start discussing there already exist here. Also people will be better equipped to find relevant data. The people at wikia say I should await the wiki's response, or if none is given in seven days. It'll be eligible for adoption.- DcHallofJustice, admin, The Morphin Grid 18:41, January 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noticed the correction in the emails - nice work. Wasn't sure how to go about fixing that. I hope that's the last of the Power Rangers Universe references, I've been trying to correct them all for a couple of months now (changed a link to the To Do List on the homepage earlier, as that was a redlink as a result of pointing to the old name - it should've been redirected when that page was moved). There's a message board called Power Ranger Universe (which I happen to be an admin on, it was originally Power Ranger Empire) and I don't want the wiki confused with that. Digifiend 02:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Universal Image Changes
Made two changes to the board universally. No longer will you see an add button on galleries. Also, the user who added the images is no longer listed below in thumbnails. Both changes greatly reduce clutter across the wiki.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 11:02, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * That has been annoying me since Wikia introduced that "feature". Didn't know the uploader credit on thumbnail images was removable, nice work. Digifiend 18:11, January 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks man. I've also added credit to images cropped off of Ranger Central database images. Those appear everywhere on the net, and they deserve the credit.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 07:59, January 20, 2012 (UTC)

Full Titles
Guys, I put the full Power Rangers titles back. Figured we have the same respect for fully titling Sentai, and this would be better. Redirects are still in place so in places aside from the article titles you can still peruse the shorter names. SPD has also been cleaned up with a minor disambig note on the season page.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 16:48, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Super Sentai
We are now officially supersentai.wikia.com AND powerrangers.wikia.com - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 18:33, January 23, 2012 (UTC)

Sentai last appearances
I see Kenta from Maskman has his last appearance listed as The Great Gathering of 11 Sentai: The Glorious Opening Collection, which is the first episode of Turboranger. I understand that the past rangers only appeared unmorphed in archive footage (which shouldn't count), so surely if that morphed-only appearance counts, nobody's last appearance should be earlier than The Space Pirates Appear or even Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle, due to the Legend War footage? Otherwise, Kenta's last episode should be Maskman's finale. Digifiend 00:09, January 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I completely agree with this. I did start to update it a few months ago but then got too busy with other things. Let's just replace that bit with Great Legend War, seeing as it was seen in The Space Pirates appear and Gokaiger Goseiger Super Sentai 199 Hero Great Battle. DigiRanger  00:30, January 26, 2012 (UTC)


 * I've often wondered about this as well, and I've tended to lean towards if it's intended for them to be there, to use it but if they aren't a focus then it doesn't count. So in your example, because the Legend War focuses collectively on the rangers, but we merely see them for mere seconds if that, I would pass that over - but ones we see extensively, such as the Goseigers, BoukenRed, Go-On Yellow, etc who feature more prominently, then I would count those. That may not make much sense, but I am not sure how to better word it. Nbajammer 00:31, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're saying. So you think that Tsuruhime's would be her Gokaiger episode, Umeko's would be 199 Hero, but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be the VS movies for the following seasons (Magi vs Deka for Sen-chan, and Ohre vs Kaku for Jiraiya). And that means Kenta's would be the Maskman finale. Digifiend 20:55, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Right. I'm not insistant on that, I mean they DID fight in the Legend War. But I think the question of did they actually appear in the war (even though we know they fought), is what should dictate whether it should be 199 or not. Nbajammer 23:26, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I may, I think you really should consider the in-suit appearance as well. The series made it clear that every legend we've seen fought in the war along with all the rangers and a specific list of Bangai heroes. My view is we should list them as such. Though I agree with saying "Legend War" as opposed to say 'the film' or 'the first episode'.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:00, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * So do we have a concensus that the 199 heroes of the film's title all made their last appearance in the Legend War, except where they appeared in a Gokaiger episode after episode 16 (in which case that later episode would be the last appearance)? Until Super Hero Wars is out anyway. Digifiend 19:55, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, go for it. Makes things less confusing too. Newbies won't wonder how come we didn't list yellow mask as last appearing in 2011 when they saw her kikcing Gormin can-heads. :) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:29, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

I don't view it that way - if we don't SEE them, they technically didn't APPEAR. That is in light of the fact that we know they fought in the war. For instance, did we SEE Yellow Mask fight in the Legend War, or do we simply KNOW she did? Changing them all to Legend War or the 199 movie will make things considerably confusing, since people would say 'I saw the 199 movie and I didn't see where (insert name of ranger) appeared!'. Then you'd have edit wars, revert wars, people changing other articles on the same principles and one heck of a mess to clean up. I don't think we want to open that can of worms. Nbajammer 17:21, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * There's always that screen where AkaRed first lands in the sentai pile (where Alata is front and center. Pretty sure you can double check there. See it supports the logic that all the rangers turned into keys.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:20, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying they didn't fight in the war - I'm saying did they really APPEAR in it. For example, if you look at the Legend Shift page you will see past senshis that APPEARED in Gokaiger. They weren't represented in morphed form out of convenience, or to tell a story. They actually showed up. During the Great Legend War we know the rangers all fought, and we saw them all morphed. However it was there for the purpose of telling a story - explaining why the rangers don't have their powers and how the Gokaigers received their Ranger Keys. Thus technically it is NOT an appearance, and really should'nt be stated as such. Maybe that'll make more sense to you. Nbajammer 20:25, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * [[Image:sentaiformation.jpg|630px]]
 * Not what I said. Re-read what I wrote. There is a difference between a character appearing, and a character being present for the purposes of telling a story. I did not say they did not fight in the war. Nbajammer 20:43, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry I was still typing after I posted the image. I get what you're saying. But if we (in effect) say that say Yellow Mask or MammothRanger didn't appear in the legend war (by not stating it as the last appearance), then that also negates their ranger forms appearing. I'll simplify if. Even a cameo appearance is still an appearance. Let's just stick to keeping them listed.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:45, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * But we're not saying they didn't appear in the war. It clearly states that in the article itself! I'll use Yellow Mask as an example. Her last stated appearance was in the The Great Gathering of 11 Sentai: The Glorious Opening Collection - and yet in the article it says "Years later, Haruka fought alongside not only her own team, but every single Sentai ranger in existence, against the Empire of Zangyack when it attacked the Earth in the Great Legend War. After fighting against hundreds of Gormin and their Zgormin commanders. Kaijou noticed the fleet moving towards them, he gathered all the Rangers together and gave them the order to sacrifice their powers to wipe out the first invasion's armada." - In other words, the last time her character made an appearance, it was in that collection however her character was also present for the Legend War. Did we see Yellow Mask prominently in the war? No. None made a prominent appearance except Akaranger (whose last appearance would be the 199 movie). However the article still states she was present for it. Nbajammer 20:53, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why her infobox should state her last appearance is the war. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 21:04, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm done trying, and done repeating myself. You clearly refuse to understand. I'm trying to help make this wiki resourceful, informative, and clean and you want to invent appearances without considering the reasonable rebuttal given to you. So, do whatever you want. I'm done getting it thrown in my face. Nbajammer 21:07, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Look, I wasn't trying to 'throw anything' in your face. I'm merely stating that appearances AND cameo appearances are to be stated. I'm confused because you said you weren't insistent. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 21:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I am going to say this one more time, none of them APPEARED in the war. Their character was present for the purpose of EXPLAINING something. You did not see Yellow Mask show up and start fighting Gormin. You did not see MammothRanger suddenly show up and start fighting. They did not APPEAR in the war. They were present for the war for the purpose of explanation - that is not an appaearance, and is not a cameo either. You did not see the actor or actress show up on-screen at all. This is why DragonRanger and TimeFire are not legends in episode 18 despite them being shown in the dream sequence. The story of the war is that every ranger fought Zangyack and sacrificed their powers. The fact that they fought in the war is stated clearly in the articles of the rangers themselves, but the characters themselves did not show up. This is like the 4th or 5th time I have stated this. You even said you get what I'm saying. If you get what I'm saying, then you know there's a difference between being present in a scene, and an appearance by the character. I even provided links to articles here on the wiki to illustrate the difference between an appearance, where the character is seen on-screen and plays a role in a given episode and a character being present to explain an event that we are not watching unfold as-it-happens. Thus the rangers did not APPEAR in the Legend War and thus it is NOT an appearance (cameo or otherwise). How many times do I need to repeat myself before you can see that listing the war as a last appearance is WRONG? But like I said, do whatever you want. If you are going to invent appearances, then I'm done contributing to the wiki if it will push out false information. Nbajammer 21:50, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as insistance, I was replying to Digifiend thusly,

''I understand what you're saying. So you think that Tsuruhime's would be her Gokaiger episode, Umeko's would be 199 Hero, but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be the VS movies for the following seasons (Magi vs Deka for Sen-chan, and Ohre vs Kaku for Jiraiya). And that means Kenta's would be the Maskman finale. Digifiend 20:55, January 26, 2012 (UTC)''

''Right. I'm not insistant on that, I mean they DID fight in the Legend War. But I think the question of did they actually appear in the war (even though we know they fought), is what should dictate whether it should be 199 or not. Nbajammer 23:26, January 26, 2012 (UTC)''

In other words, I'm not insistant that it be 199. But I also stated, as you can see, that they did fight in the war - but the question is did they appear or not, and as I've stated several times now, they did not. The rangers were shown fighting in a past event via flashback. We saw the rangers fighting, but we saw Yellow Mask for all of what, 30 seconds? Less? What role did Yellow Mask play in the war? None, she fought and that's it. That's why I replied to Digifiend that Tsuruhime's should be Gokaiger 45, Akaranger's and Umeko's should be 199 but Sen-chan and Jiraiya would be their VS movies because they played no role in the war other than to fight in it. They were shown there for convenience, to explain a plot point. Nbajammer 22:10, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * You did just say they were shown. It doesn't matter why or for how long. But they were in it. You yourself said "they were shown there for convenience". Being shown and having appeared- same thing. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:27, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. I said the character was present for the war. I showed you the difference between the appearance of a character, and the fact that it is shown for another reason. Show me where Haruka appears in the war. We see her for all of 30 seconds if that and not again. She's not there as part of the plot, but you seem to believe otherwise so show me. Show me where Yuki Nagata appears. She doesn't. You're just never going to get it, despite claims to the contrary. I'm done with this arguement. Do whatever you want, I won't contribute to this wiki anymore due to it pushing out false information. I try to help, and I get it thrown in my face when I point out a fatal flaw in a proposed action. Nbajammer 22:35, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * We see her for all of 30 seconds is an appearance. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:51, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * So explain to me how DragonRanger and TimeFire are not Legends for episode 18. Tell me why all 6 Goseigers and all 6 Shinkengers are not Legends for 40. Answer is rather simple - they're there in order to explain the story, the same as Yellow Mask. Thus Yellow Mask DID NOT APPEAR. Why are you taking something so blatantly obvious and trying to start drama over it, especially after admitting you got what I was explaining to you? Why? Even Digifiend - another administrator like yourself - saw exactly what I was saying! Are you trying to cause problems on this wiki? I think you need to review the information I've given you and you will see it is obviously clear it is NOT an appearance. Nbajammer 23:00, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Facepalm. I never even mentioned DragonRanger and TimeFire. Those are also cameo appearances and should be listed as such. I am not trying to start drama over anything. Try reading both our responses and see who's being dramatic. My suggestion for you, is that you modify the sentairangerinfobox to to include 'full appearances' and 'cameoapperances'. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:06, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Did not say you mentioned them. But if Yellow Mask appeared in the Legend War, then by the same principles DragonRanger and TimeFire would be legends. You are trying to start drama because as I've pointed out to you, what you claim is an appearance is in fact NOT an appearance, and as I stated multiple times this page proves that. Every one on that page made an appearance. Yellow Mask clearly did not. But you don't want to believe that. You are being dramatic by throwing it back in my face that your opinion is correct, when the evidence suggests otherwise. I am trying to show you how you are wrong, but you do not want to recognize that. And if you truly had gotten what I was saying, as you said above, then we wouldn't be having this conversation and you would agree it was not an appearance. Nbajammer 23:17, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * You have to understand that you also did say that I don't view it that way - if we don't SEE them, they technically didn't APPEAR.  and there's an image right there. Anyway, the Sentairangerinfo template has been updated to include, that should solve the issue. See TimeFire and Burai's pages.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:28, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

That's right. You don't see Yuki Nagata at all, whereas you do see Runa Natsui, Ayumi Kinoshita, et al. That's where the difference lies. Nbajammer 23:33, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The new value input for the Sentai rangers' infoboxes can solve the issue. Just list all the 199-only rangers as lastcameos. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:40, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does it need to be manually edited in? Or is it part of the template itself? Nbajammer 23:42, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * As it is, you'll have to type "lastcameo=" then the episode name in the infoboxes for each ranger. But there is already a provision that it lists it under the "Last Full Appearance". So far only Burai and TimeFire have it. You can see how it works there.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:44, January 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Forgot to mention, it's also structured so that if the last appearance of a ranger is a full appearance, you need not add a last cameo appearance at all, like, say for Kaoru Shiba.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:58, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Fan work
Guys, I feel we need to do something about fan work on the wiki. There are some posts here that I'm concerned will do nothing but further diminish the credibility of the site. Even blog posts that claim 'actors sign on for fan films' or 'upcoming seasons' have to be dealt with. The blogs here are for the use of editors of the wiki. But if people just come in and claim a corner for fan work well there's other places to do that. If no admin has any objections, I'd like to crack down on fan work and 'mascot-users' (those acting like characters from PR/sentai). There are wikis SPECIFICALLY for ranger-related fan work and this is not it. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 19:01, January 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. To tell the truth, I'm fed up seeing the Recent Activity page littered with blog posts for a Trakeena based fanfic season. Let's have a clearout. This is where fanfics belong. Or . Not here. Digifiend 20:47, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Absent admins
I know Ozu Miyuki has been labelled as inactive, but there's two other inactive admins as well - NXT-Inspire and Serpen. NXT's profile for some reason redirects to Serpen's, that shouldn't have happened IMHO. When Dchallofjustice was absent, Ozu took away his admin abilities, which were restored a few months ago. Should we similarly strip NXT and Serpen of their powers? They haven't been here since 2008 and 2009 respectively. I can't do this myself, as apparently, I'm the only sysop who isn't also a bureaucrat. Digifiend 20:05, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should, but we should also leave a message in each's talk pages assuring them that their adminships would be restored upon reentry. The reason being that when you access the true admin page, there are more names than there should be. As far as your bureaucrat status, since Digi brought you in, you should speak to him about a request for bureau status. Serpen was the one who brought me in, but since he was unavailable, and there were no longer-staying than I, I had to ask Digi for mine, given that he's the active bureaucrat.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:20, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I already knew about your rights upgrade as I was notified about it in an automated email, that's what prompted me to check the ListUsers Special page in the first place. Digifiend 20:31, January 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Already worked on the absent admins pages. I didn't look into it but maybe when NXT left he redirected his pages to Serpen so that he could 'take the calls'.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 20:40, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Interwiki shortcuts
Sometimes the w:c: in an Interwiki shortcut isn't necessary (heh, it pays to keep an eye on other wikias). I copied a page over from the Tardis wiki which explains this - Help:Interwiki shortcuts, with a few minor edits to fix links and such. At the moment, it's labelled as being originally from the Doctor Who wiki, but if we can re-contextualise it in relation to PR or SS, then that disclaimer could be removed. So far, five wikis are known to have global interwiki shortcuts - tardis (Doctor Who), community (Wikia Communiity Central), memoryalpha (Star Trek), starwars, and powerrangers. Yes, I tested it, we have a global shortcut. All of the original 100 wikias should apparently have them, but the guys at Tardis wiki haven't identified them yet. It's also possible to have a local shortcut made on request from the Wikia staff - Tardis has one for the Muppet wiki. Might be a good idea for us to get similar links for metalheroes and kamenrider. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 15:03, January 28, 2012 (UTC)

Rollerbackers
Guys, I've added two rollerbackers to the site. They've been on my shortlist for a while of people whose wiki behavior I've been considering. There was one other who'd recently proven to not be ideal, and there was another who's quite able but I'm not quite sold on the number of edits just yet. I've given them a month to prove they can handle the rollback, and after that they're off my 'watch list' but of course any of us admins have the ability to remove the rollback with good reason. Here are our new rollerbackers - MrSmartyMax and MrThermomanPreacher. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 16:29, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ranger Names
Supersaiyanbatman will be on a lot of sentai-related pages to fix the rangers' names/ranger designations from CamelCase to the correct spaced spellings. Please bear with him as he makes the changes. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 10:40, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Following up on that, all OFFICIAL, referenced/cited romanized names will be recorded in Style Guide/Sentai Spellings.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 11:55, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Someone posted a scan on Rangerboard confirming that Nick Chida is actually called Cheeda Nick, so I added that to the Go-Busters section of the Ranger designation style guide. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 20:52, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Found another one through Wikipedia. Seems it's Buddyloid, not BuddyRoid. Another one to add to the style guide? <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend  00:10, February 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's the L vs. R in Japanese debate again...Might have to see how they actually pronounce it in the show<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 03:18, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Zord Pages
I have a proposal for the zord/Megazord pages. There's really some bits that we leave out when we do grouped pages and even subgroups can get confusing. My suggestion is let's bring back the Zord pages with the full list, but this time as a category, instead of just being a list page. Then have the possibility for separate pages under each.

The reason I can't seem to let this go is even the original sentai pages list them individually and we have thrice (or more) as much info, plus we can have categorization on our side if done right. Having both an organized list/category page (where the descriptions and combos will be) and individual pages (where the stats and history will be) will allow more congruence to the wiki and less hassle for redirects.

Also this should satisfy both the ones who need an orderly set of zords in one hand and those that wanna do quick lookups of zord history (like say 3-piece Megazords or train zords), eliminating the need for random trivia. I hope you guys will be better okay with this than the complete revert I suggested before. I just think organizing zords the way we organize rangers would help us be a more 'lookup'-based wiki.

I also propose to have the zord's battle system listed as a template below each zord's page. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 15:59, January 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Definitely a good idea, and we do need consistency between sentai and PR mecha pages. I say go ahead. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:27, January 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * Can't really say that I know exactly what you're getting at, but how about testing it on Gingaioh? Seeing as that is what was next on my Mecha to do list, it only makes sense to use it as the test. DigiRanger  03:53, February 2, 2012 (UTC)
 * sure. Was thinkiN of trying it out on mecha first anyways.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 05:32, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Categories
I'm noticing more and more categories being made that really serve no purpose. I think the whole concept is getting out of control and should be reigned in. I realize that some of the categories exist to make navigation easier, and those are fine. But it is like categories are being made for any and every possible grouping of characters, making things harder to keep track of. Could we possibly get this system overhauled soon? Every time I turn around someone is adding some category or categories to every ranger page out there. Nbajammer 23:20, February 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that whole "Unique Ranger" category seemed to have been done while I was eating, but when I got back I eliminated it. The "Power Rangers Heroine" category now no longer exists with Female Rangers taking it's place in favor, given that DC had already transferred all the info over and not all rangers on that list were good. If you can think of any others, please state them. DigiRanger  00:28, February 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I feel like we don't even need those gender categories.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:25, February 5, 2012 (UTC)

Style Guide
Guys, check out the Style Guide. See if you can add, correct, suggest. :) - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid 18:15, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Redirecting off wiki doesn't work (just takes me to the redirect page) so I removed the part about the Tsukasa Kadoya redirect. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 21:32, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dang. It was supposed to. I'll see what I can do.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:10, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * We are supposed to translate transformation calls, aren't we? I ask because Shinkenger's was just changed to English on the Transformation Sequences page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:36, February 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I guess a compromise would be to include the original Japanese and romanization. But keeping it in its original serves no purpose for the English-language reader.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 04:48, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

I want to apologize for not being here, as I was the one who proposed this for Sentai stuff, but I wanted to say something about Shinkenger: It's kinda confusing not having the phrase they say during their transformation listed there. Write Ippitsu Soujo and Ikkan Kenjou the way we do other Japanese text around the wiki. Well...I think it may just work if you use the Japanese word they say first to be uniform on the page, because "Ikkan Kenjou" is, if I recall, a strange thing to translate and no one has a consistent (haha) translation that people use. That's just me though. Same would go for Dairanger. Again, I apologize for not being here, I'm gonna try to get some stuff done this weekend to make up for it. Supersaiyanbatman 07:12, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Lunagel
Can someone delete the Heavenly Saint Lunagel redirect so the Lunagel page can be moved there? Heavenly Saint Lunagel is her proper name, and I think that Lunagel would be better served as a redirect to that page. But because the page already exists, I cannot move it over redirect. Nbajammer 20:07, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just moved it, overwriting the redirect in the process. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 21:21, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks much. Told me page already exists when I tried to do it myself. Nbajammer 21:24, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

Gold Mode
The Gold Mode links for Gokai Silver are a mess all over the wiki. Some link to a picture of it on Gai's page. Some link to the Ranger Keys page where it talks about Gold Mode with the Anchor Key. This would be too much to clean up without some form of consensus. Gold Mode does not warrant its own page, we shouldn't link to a gallery on Gai's page as it isn't descriptive, and we probably don't want to link to the Ranger Keys page even though it talks about Gold Mode there. The Gold Mode page redirects to the Ranger Keys page, and some people are making the Gold Mode link to the gallery. How should we fix this? Move the Gold Mode section to Gai's page, change the redirect on Gold Mode and re-do the links? Change the links back to Gold Mode (sans the space)? Create a new page? Nbajammer 05:53, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Technically, it's a ranger form. We should link it to Gai's "Gokai Silver" section and have those tabbed ranger form thingys we now have (like on Jayden's page). You're right. It shouldn't link to anything else. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 06:29, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Why are so many pages locked?
Ok, I'm new here, so forgive my ignorance, but why are so many pages here locked? A lot of them are in desperate need of fixing and could easily be fixed. If you're worried about vandalism, then why not just make them semi-protected so only registered users can change them? -- Iwearafeznow 16:49, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * They're protected that way. Thing is, it also includes "very new" registered users. It's kind of a package. The higher traffic pages are done that way. Usually new users can develop their profiles and add to lesser-traffic pages for a few rounds then see if the pages are open to them already. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 17:07, February 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ok, I see. Thanks. -- Iwearafeznow 17:09, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

"You've been banned" template
What do you think of this idea? If someone gets banned, we place a template on their talk page explaining why they've been banned and for how long. I saw something similar on the Logopedia wiki. I could port it across to here, and we could use it as it is, or Rangerfy it by changing the text and accompanying graphic. Here it is: BlockNotice <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:03, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good! -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:11, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Deletion error
Just got an error message when trying to delete a duplicated image (File:Air-Earth-Water Tribe Megazord.jpg: Error deleting file: Could not create directory "deleted/7/5/f". <a href="/index.php?title=Special:Contact&wpContactProblem=Bug:Directory+permission+error">Please report the above error using this form</a> Any idea what went wrong? Here's the other/additional reason I used: Clone of File:TSG-Sky Land Sea Gosei Great.jpg. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:31, February 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. I have a different error. I can't seem to edit the mediawiki page for the expanded menu. It's stuck on preview.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 15:53, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation, yes? That one I can solve. If the text is too wide to fit on one row, you get an error message, which means you need to go back and edit the text. That's why I altered it slightly a couple of weeks ago just after you enabled it, the text ported over from the old layout didn't fit. What was you trying to do? Was you simply planning to change the Gokai and Busters entries, since Gokaiger will no longer be "now airing" in a few hours? Or was it something more extensive, like adding sub-menus? <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:47, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I realize this isn't the sub-heading for this, but if you're going to make changes to the navigation could we get a link to the Style Guide there for easy reference while editing? Nbajammer 19:50, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Funny thing- THAT's excatly what I was gonna do- add the style guides. LOL. The prob, Digifriend, is not that I get an error when I go back, there's not even a "publish" button at all. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 22:57, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I managed to delete the Image, so I guess the problem must have just existed on both of your computers or something. DigiRanger  01:34, February 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that Digi. Christophe, click on Preview, and on the popup, there should be two choices, Back, and Publish, just like when previewing on any other page. Apparently previewing is mandatory in the MediaWiki namespace. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:41, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Trivia and Unsourced Statements
I seriously think we need to cut down on trivia. We just had two users who came in almost EXCLUSIVELY to add trivia to every page. Please let's talk about what to cut down. I'd like the admins, rollerbackers and regulars to chime in.

I suggest we remove number trivia unless they're BIG firsts- like Kaoru Shiba is the first ever Red female Sentai Ranger or blah blah is the first 10-piece mecha. No to race, number, color trivia or ones that refer to what zord, animal or motif something is based on. Also I suggest removing all uncited material (if you wanna keep it on, have a cite) in trivia and production area.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  15:53, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I became very concerned that Pikatwig was only here to farm badges - he certainly alluded as much on User:MrThermomanPreacher's talk page, but I was hesitant to revert some of the edits because they could be seen as constructive. Glad that has been taken care of. But this sort of thing is honestly why I don't like the idea of having achievements on wikis - because anyone can edit them, and even the smallest edits count, this sort of thing will happen. Hopefully we can further restrict the requirements for them, or even get rid of them given these sorts of things happen. As far as trivia, I agree with those suggestions - and number, color, or motif trivia should also be limited exclusively to BIG references (such as the Kaoru reference above). Race should never be in trivia, ever. I think commonly-known, uncited material should stay - but if it is something not commonly known then it should be cited or removed. Which is why I told Pikatwig, if you have to add the Citation Needed at the same time as the trivia, it shouldn't be posted (gives a hint that it's false, and if it was true it likely would already be there - had he cited it at the same time, it would have been alright). More thoughts possibly later once I wake up. Nbajammer 19:40, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I made (or rather, copied from Wikipedia) the Citation Needed template as a way of requesting citations for existing unsourced material, not a way to justify adding things that aren't true to the wiki. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:51, February 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, so far I've been seeing things constructively come out of having badges, so I wouldn't count 'em out yet. But I do think we should start trimming down. Besides, if the info's legit, someone'll step in eventually to add it anyway. Any other stuff we need taken down?-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 23:00, February 18, 2012 (UTC)

Go-Onger
Most places, I see the series romanized as "Go-Onger". Lots of other sites use "Go-onger", "Go Onger", "Go onger", "GoOnger", and so forth. Merchandise leaves it ambiguous, even though it's spelled right it isn't capitalized properly. On the Style Guide, we list it as Go-Onger. People are continuing to use the lower case all over the wiki, and while I'm correcting the oversight people keep reverting it back.

Why Go-Onger is correct:


 * Go-Onger is a play on the words "Go On"
 * Go-Onger looks more professional than Go-onger
 * Go and On are treated as seperate words and are hyphenated, so On should be capitalized
 * It is part of the title of the show, and thus should be capitalized
 * It is commonly used on the wiki as Go-Onger/Go-On (insert color or team here)

Therefore, like the Style Guide says, it should be listed as "Go-On Red" and "Go-On Wings" rather than "Go-on Red" and "Go-on Wings". Can we make some kind of formal announcement of this? I may have to start including the Style Guide in the reason so people will leave it be. Nbajammer 19:01, February 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've just altered the navigation bar to include a drop down list of all the Style Guide pages. I hope that helps. If we have a confirmed romanization, make sure it's on the Sentai Spellings style guide page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:32, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe it's just me, but I am still seeing the "old" navigation bar - the one that says Gokaiger is now airing, even though I know it was changed recently. Nbajammer 19:36, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's under the Community heading. DigiRanger  23:52, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's why I don't see it. I'm on Monobook, which I prefer to the new skin. Nbajammer 23:59, February 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fixed it. You might have to remind me now and then, whenever Monobook needs updating. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:35, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Monobook isn't showing the Style Guide(s), fyi. Nbajammer 01:03, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * It is now. I just made some major changes to the Monobook navigation menu so that it now has most of the same links as the New Wikia Look navbar. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 12:35, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * One final request, if I may - can we move the for editors section up above the Super Sentai one so it's easier to find/see? Other than that, Monobook looks great and I think it will be very useful for its users. I will try to help point out any would-be issues with it when I can. Nbajammer 18:02, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that'll work. One thing though, you may have to remind us from time to time if there are changes to be made for monobook as it seems like all the admins are on New Wikia.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:17, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Gokai Updates
Since Gokaiger's over, isn't it about time we start focusing on updating their character profiles?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 06:21, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you mean? They're always open for expansion. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 06:30, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Episode Titles
I have a proposal to make for our Episode editors, if the other admins agree. Perhaps we can change the way we title episodes to include episode numbers at least. It'll provide a much better context to an article when we know something or someone came in early in a season, mid-season or further along the line. Also some sentai episodes have special episode designations like Mission (Go-Busters) or Epic (Goseiger) or Act (Shinkenger). Those that don't we can stick to Ep 01, 02 etc. What do you guys say? I plan on doing this to Kamen Rider episodes (those haven't started yet) but I'll only make sure it happens here if Digi and Digifriend are in support. It'll give our episode guys somethin' to organize too.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  13:45, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, including the episode numbers in the format used on the show is definitely a good idea. Production codes when known could also be used, as it would identify anything aired out of order (for example, Power Rangers episodes Wormhole and Origins). My username doesn't have an R in it by the way, Christophe. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 18:33, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh wow. It really doesn't! LOL. Sorry about that. Wow, after all this time, I never realized. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 18:51, February 26, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you mean retitling the pages or just like template updates along with renaming the episode lists featured on the episode guides and season pages? DigiRanger  00:46, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think both would be good, since it's better to have the "episode" on the infoboxes be linkable.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:34, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. <span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 01:47, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Huh? The next and previous episodes on the infobox are already linkable. I assumed you was just talking about a template modification to add the episode numbers to the infobox. By the way, should the previous episode on a Sentai premiere be the finale of the previous Sentai? That's how it was done on Special Mission Task Force, Assemble!, listing the previous episode as Farewell Space Pirates. But each Sentai series is technically a new show, unlike Power Rangers. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Megazord disambiguation pages + Franchise terminology
Hey, I was going to ask about if pages referring to 'MegaZords' in Go-Busters were going to be created before DC went ahead and did so, but now that it's there I think we should have a disambiguation page, because now we have multiple pages using the word and it may get confusing for people coming here and not knowing what we use for what. For example, someone might type in the way we render Go-Busters' giant robos name (MegaZord) while looking for either the MMPR Megazord or a general list of PR ones, not the giant robots of Go-Busters. I also noticed the category page for the PR Megazords doesn't have anything after RPM, or at least I didn't see it.

Second thing I wanted to mention was that I think we should have consistent franchise terminology on our wiki, and by that I mean, calling Sentai transformation devices "Changers" because, 'Henshin' Device doesn't do anything for the random Joe who doesn't know anything about Tokusatsu and just stumbles upon here because of Power Rangers and comes across a Sentai article. Transformation device is clunky and too long, but changer's been used before officially and is a good general term for the devices. For Mecha/Giant Robo for Sentai, I'd try to figure out which one is more commonly used, pick one and stick with it. Ranger is a non-issue, because while they sometimes call them Warriors(Senshi) or Heroes as a general term, both franchises have had their heroes called "Rangers" since the beginning.

Any thoughts? Supersaiyanbatman 01:44, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The word henshin is already banned, per Style Guide/Japanese Language, so yeah, "henshin device" definitely shouldn't be used. Mecha is a zord, Robo is a Megazord, so both should still be used. Sentai only made Ranger the standard in Gokaiger. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:56, February 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarification on the robot names. The ranger thing however I dunno about...
 * Goranger, Turboranger, Zyuranger, Dairanger, Kakuranger, Ohranger, Carranger, Megaranger, Timeranger, Gaoranger, Abaranger, Hurricaneger, Dekaranger, Magiranger, Boukenger, Gekiranger, Go-Onger, Shinkenger, Goseiger, Gokaiger. Sometimes when they have events and have English on their signs, they have "Sentai" replaced with "Ranger" so it reads "Super Ranger". So...
 * Supersaiyanbatman 02:00, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Dealt with the Megazord category. Added Samurai's Megazords to the list, along with a disambig link to Category:MegaZords, which is the Go-Busters MegaZords page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:06, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we could just do with the quick quips on the Megazord and MegaZord pages that say "for the other thing, see..." since the variance occurs only on those two pages. Everything else is named (like MegaZord Beta). Digifiend's right, Rangers WAS just standardized in Gokaiger, so at least now we have a catch-all term. We don't necessarily have to check each series for what they're called. Also agreeing with Digifiend's equivalences. Mecha=Zord, Robo=Megazord. We don't have terms for a Battlezord in Sentai so mecha and robo both apply depending on mode. We have "0.5 Robo" for an undesignated Zord type in PR (which essentially in PR is only Red Dragon anyway).-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:09, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Just realized we might need a new Style Guide page for these franchise names and catch-all terms. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:14, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

The changer thing? I bring it up since 'Morpher' isn't a term really used by anyone else other than Power Rangers. Sentai tends to use Changer more often than the others. The other common names for their transformation items are either "Braces" for the wrist warn ones or something regarding phones. Either Transformation Cellphone (Henshin Keitai) or "Phone" in English or both. And if you make a style guide for franchise terms, what else should we include that we haven't spoken of already? Supersaiyanbatman 02:20, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * No new page needed. This can be covered on the Style Guide/Naming Conventions and Redirects page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:23, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, got it. Still need to know if there's anything else we should list other than what we've discussed here, though. Supersaiyanbatman 02:26, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah, you're right Digifiend. SSB, I've always supported the changer issue. No worries there. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:29, February 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added a section to Style Guide/Naming Conventions and Redirects that refers to franchise names. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:44, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sentai Numbered Rangers
I saw lml editing the numbered rangers and this got me thinking. Is there an actual ranking? There isn't right? And as I was typing this I saw that Digifiend had a similar issue with 4th rangers. I propose we just discard this set of categories as they don't have any bearing really, other than being precedent to 6th rangers, which don't necessarily have to be number 6 anyway. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  03:03, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Fine with me. The teams I mentioned, Carranger and Dekaranger, have green as number 3, but because GokaiGreen is Gokaiger's supposed fourth (we only have roll call order to determine that), they too were classed as fourth, which is incorrect. You're right, Gokaiger, and the majority of past seasons, do not have numbered rankings. So instead of trying to fix it, let's get rid. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 03:14, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

I seem to have admin privilages on a wiki I've never heard of
Got an email in my inbox, about it being ten days (two days ago) since I started "Playskool Wiki". "Whoa, time flies! It's already been 10 days since you started Playskool Wiki." I did no such thing. Check this: it says I'm an admin (not the Founder, confirming the email was erroneous), but I have no edits! I'm not the only one in that situation. Anyone know how I can report the founder? They shouldn't be giving away admin powers without getting permission, I have no interest in Playskool toys. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 00:47, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's just a category of people as far as I can tell - when I went to Special Pages: User List, it did not show you as an admin, bureaucrat, or sysop. Your name wasnt even on the list. Nbajammer 01:12, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * How strange. Maybe it's an email glitch. Or maybe someone REALLY REALLY trusts you so much they just had to admin you up. Haha. :) Well, since Nbajammer didn't see your name in the sysop list, it's probably an e-mail bot error. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:23, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Take a look at this. It's like it was created with the Administrators template and then just filled in as if it were a blank page. Nbajammer 02:50, March 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not on the User List because I have zero edits. Look at the link where I put "Check this" above. It takes you to my profile page there, showing that I am an admin. I just don't understand why. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 17:48, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

That page exists because another user made it - not because you're an admin. Nbajammer 00:15, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

What do we call non-Super Sentai sentai shows?
Okay, so Sentai shows cover everything that's got a sentai in it, like Voicelugger, but in this board we use Sentai as a short form of Super Sentai. Now I don't suggest overhauling the board just so we can use Sentai for unofficial stuff, but at the same time, because of how we use the term unofficial (given Akibaranger) we'll need a new operational term for everything regarding Voicelugger, Sport Ranger, France Five and whatever else.

On another topic a page has been created for Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon, which is a 'sentai' by Japanese standards but in no way 'sentai' by wiki standards (which covers 'Super Sentai' and 'super sentai-like' stuff). Think we should keep it? I'm on the fence about it, but I lean towards 'it's ok to keep'. What do you guys think on both counts? - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  01:59, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Is there any chance we're going to edit the Gokaiger episodes to include "Ep. #" in their titles anytime soon.
 * Changing the episode titles is a free-for-all task. If you have the time and are working on particular episodes anyway, go ahead and do so. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 16:50, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * They are often called Tokusatsu so maybe that is what we should call them. I say keep Pretty Guardians Sailor Moon Regemet 17:03, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree on both counts. The other Saban shows also fit into that category. By the way, an article has been made for Space Crime Syndicate Makuu. I think this and and other Metal Heroes related pages such as Retsu Ichijouji should have Metal Heroes wiki headers, like the Kamen Rider pages here have for their wiki. I've copied the necessary code to Template:ArticleMH but the images don't exist or at least don't have filenames that match their KR counterparts, so that'll need to be updated before we can use it. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:09, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed on Metal Heroes, Digifiend. Regemet, we can't call them Tokusatsu because then that'll include even KR, Gransazer, Ultraman and the like. We need a word for Super Sentai-like tokusatsu. How about "Non-sentai"? "Pseudo-sentai"?. "Sentai-like"? seems odd.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:21, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

What shows would we count as "Sentai-like", I know Voicelugger, France Five, PGSM, and Sport Ranger would count, but are there any others? Dont Be a Sad Panda 01:18, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Those and a few others. They just sort of come out of the woodwork from archives of past Japanese shows. I'd technically not count PGSM if it weren't for the deliberate attempt to structure it as a sentai-like show. I'm leaning towards pseudo-sentai, btw -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:25, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Holiday
Just a warning that I'm going away to visit relatives in Norwich for a few days. Will be back home on Thursday, but I'll try to get online while I'm away. No promises though. So if I don't come here, at least you know why. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 02:39, March 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, you had a vacation as well? Well, that just makes me wish I knew Dc's username on the boards so that I could have given him the same information I e-mailed to you. DigiRanger  01:21, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Epilepsie
Yesterday I tried to find images off your picture archives and could not because I got 2 impending siezure warnings this is one of the reasons I often repeat download so I do not risk an epileptic siezure.Regemet 04:45, March 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * Seizures. Don't repeat download. Use the existing images. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 04:53, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

New Category Style
I've set categories on the new option for viewing all as sortable. Let me know if you guys think it's better or not. -- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  16:15, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * The new-look categories are borked on Monobook. The pages have no information on them. Thought you would want to know. Nbajammer 23:07, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Power Rangers Questions
The Power Rangers Answers site that's connected to this one is currently a gigantic mess... I'm doing my best to contain and answer questions, and sort the children who are posting random thoughts and immature stuff, but since I can't delete questions, I was wondering what can be done?

Binaryravenx 23:27, March 20, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does anyone see the value in that area anyway? -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:08, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * For a while I thought it was a portion of this wiki that had gone 'rogue' (and therefore could be fixed, or if no one 'cared', removed) but as it turns out powerrangers.answers.wikia.com is led by an entirely different team. Can't help you there. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 12:06, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Using 'See Also' properly
I think we should start using 'See Also' instead of 'Trivia' for characters with similarities, as long as they're not whole giant groups. Like say the Mike article should present see also Cam (Green Samurai Ranger) or Ran's page can have a 'see also' that has Red Buster. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  13:08, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good idea. For disambiguations at least, such as the Green Samurai Rangers, and the Mikes (Hector's character needs two disambigs!). We should probably make a template for Names The Same examples like those. But why would GekiYellow and Red Buster need such a link? All they have in common is the cheetah motif. Nobody will confuse them. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 20:47, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually I was talking more about how Wikipedia treats them as recommended reading. They're not really disambiguations but have similarities. Like reading suggestions, since they have some stuff in common. After all we're the only site I think that has a dedicated 'see' section that seems to always point to cross-culture cointerparts. Haha -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Recommended reading
I found this article of interest:

By the way, did you notice Wikia's logo has changed? <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:42, March 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds a lot like what we do, but it's a good thing to have on hand. Wikia's logo changed? LOL didn't notice. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Adding Ranger Names to characters
I think we should add the Ranger names and colors to the characters of Super Sentai on their season's page. Example: Now if the character can not transform into a human (like Ninjaman, Gunmajin and Zubaan etc.), we can just keep them the same and have no Ranger name for them. Dont Be a Sad Panda 00:25, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree but shouldn't it perhaps just be in the place of the colored blocks? Instead of the 'based on' descriptions? (like instead of Cheetah, we put Red Buster) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:20, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yay but what about people like Shurikenger, Gosei Knight and Signalman, wouldn't it be wierd to have their names twice Dont Be a Sad Panda 02:08, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

This is what I mean But this is something I'd like to hear the other admins on first. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  02:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

What would be the point of this though. Having the name on ths side in parentheses is perfectly fine, not the name in the box<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 11:01, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * The way I see it, this would defeat the purpose of clicking through to the character's page. I agree to the extent that 1, 2, 3, 4...etc don't really fit the bill, but I would rather see us maintain consistency with those teams with motifs, where appropriate. And if we can't do that, then do something like the above. If we put all of this information on the season page, why then would we need character pages? Next thing you know, we should add (insert piece of info here) and then we lose the purpose. Nbajammer 11:46, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the reason lml brought it up is because neither in season pages nor team pages do we see what a character is called. In my case the reason I brought it up is because it gets super long when we have all of that plus the fact that not everything has a motif. Or perhaps we can compromise this way. Have the ranger names in boxes for seasons, while motifs stay in the team pages. And no i don't think there should be any worry that we'll be adding any other random info other than just the ranger names.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 11:51, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Your method would be more preferrable of the two in my eyes (as demonstrated above with Akarenger). Having the names in parentheses just adds clutter to the page and makes it harder to keep track of. I never did agree with the numberings (unless explicitly stated, like in Dekaranger), and nearly did this very thing myself awhile back. Nbajammer 11:59, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Gorenger does have the explicit 1,2,3,4,5 numbering, and with some series there are explicit motifs
 * for the suits or helmets. Having the names next to the character does make sense, and it wouldn't clutter the page, it would indicate to the reader what their ranger identity is. For example, with Boukenger:

That would make perfect sense to me. DcHall could you put in a full team example of what you're proposing?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 14:08, March 23, 2012 (UTC)



His would look like this - much less clutter on the page, while still identifying the rangers. However, I still feel very reserved about this, because it feels presumptious - the person is on the Boukenger page (in this example), sees a color listing that matches the ranger, and could conceivably tie everything together (or go to the ranger page specifically). Ideally if they're on that page, they're looking for something related to Boukenger. They see the red square, and can know right away that it is the Boukengers' red ranger, aka Bouken Red.

I guess what I'm getting at, and likely doing so terribly as I've been up all night and am very exhausted, is that it would dumb down the wiki to take this step. It is like assuming the people on the page don't know what they're doing. I really, honestly do not feel this step is even necessary - but if it has to be implemented, DC's method is the biggest compromise. After all, most people won't know what "1" is unless they've seen the show where its explicitly stated (Gorenger, Dekaranger, etc.). But they would know "Bouken Red". Nbajammer 17:56, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'd like to avoid doing something so spanning that doesn't generally apply. We can't say that we'll do something only for when it's applicable, when it comes to stuff like this, because we need consistency. Given that in the Gorenge, Dairanger etc pages, we can't assume people know their names by simply applying Go or Dai to colors,pages like Dekaranger and Boukenger will have to be obvious in terms of naming. Because everything will have to match otherwise, we'll have random edits of people trying to fix things for consistency. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 18:29, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nbajammer, when a name has two words like that, write Bouken&amp;nbsp;Red, not Bouken Red. nbsp stands for Non-Breaking SPace. So your table would look like this:

<font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:10, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Why not just put all the names into a table with rows, we can have their numerical or animal designations in a row, then ranger identity, then actor. But my question is how will your propsal, Jammer, help the wiki? I personally think that it's just fine and we should consider that alot of the wiki's web traffic is from sentai/ranger fans. So they'll know when they see someone's designation in red, they're the red ranger.<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 19:53, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * That wasn't my proposal, that was DC's proposal - I simply provided the example instead of DC. In DC's example, the designation will be in red - white text inside of a red box. Colored text can be difficult to read, especially yellow text on a white background (Monobook, which I use). Yellow on light blue (the new skin) I cannot fathom would be much better. But black text inside a Yellow box would work better. Plus it's consistent with use around the wiki (see the Gokaiger pages where this is used for legends). The fewer words used to describe someone or something on a page, the more pleasing it is to the eye - and then there's the saying "Keep It Simple, Silly". Nbajammer 20:03, March 23, 2012 (UTC)


 * Ah, gotcha, but your example makes sense in the context of Gokaiger, which makes sense as it details who the legend formerly was. I still say that we should just leave it, since I feel that's simple enough for users to understand<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 21:24, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think it's complicated as it currently is, really. Users probably just need to be shown how to read the data in front of them, if anything. Nbajammer 21:27, March 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, it's far from alright as of the moment. When you go to the Zyuranger, Dairanger, Battle Fever, Gorenger etc pages for example, you wouldn't be able to guess what Ranger names belong to which characters. We don't want new viewers thinking the Dairangers are Dai Red, Dai Green, Dai Pink, Dai Yellow or Dai Blue just because in Boukenger, Dekaranger, Magiranger etc that is how easily they can get the names. My proposal is to use the longer format Gaeaman suggested for team pages, whereas on the season page, use the compact version.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:43, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

Your compromise would fit those needs better. Adding the ranger names in parenthesis just adds more unnecessary text to the page. Just have the color box text say 'DragonRanger' or 'RyuuRanger' and don't use the parenthesis. This should suffice for the whole thing:

because then we dont have walls and blocks of text filling up a simple list of ranger names and designations. Nbajammer 02:19, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * In other words, something like this. Nbajammer 02:22, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Now do these edits apply to Power Rangers as well? And what do we do with numerical designations (i.e. Dekaranger, Gorenger, etc.)<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 03:17, March 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * That's a good question. I don't have an answer or suggestion for that. Nbajammer 03:31, March 24, 2012 (UTC)

GARO
Any Sentai fans here GARO fans? GARO is getting pretty expansive over in Japan and rumor is they're going to adapt it in the US. Wondering if anyone here are fans of GARO and willing to help expand the GARO Wiki.

I didn't create it, or add the current pages, but it seems like a good start.

The Morphin Gird is absolutley amazing; thanks everyone who contributes!
 * Zombiegangbang420, thanks for the praise, but please sign your posts in future. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:18, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

The BullZord
Fury Diamond has alerted me to plagiarism on The BullZord. Apparently the episode's description was lifted straight from Samurai Cast. Please keep an eye on episode pages and make sure we don't have copy pasted content from that website in future. I've placed a cleanup tag on the BullZord episode page. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 00:21, March 29, 2012 (UTC)

Brian the Metal Hero?
Who's this?: w:c:metalheroes:Brian. I don't recognise it, so I don't know what to do with it. Pretty sure he isn't called Brian though. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 01:02, March 31, 2012 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. Never seen him before. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:42, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, like I said on the talk page there, it turns out his is from Winspector and was the first villain/MOTW to be destroyed by the GigaStreamer. Whoever created the page should have included some information rather than have us fill in the blanks. DigiRanger  03:03, April 4, 2012 (UTC)

Go-Busters Stag and Beet
So it turns out we were right about one ranger being silver but the other is definitely orange.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  02:42, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yeah but orange/black and silver/sky blue is kind of a odd mix of colors. And is that 100mm shadowed thingy supposed to be Stag's Megazord form?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 02:51, April 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Odd yes, but going forward, we'll be considering him orange. As for the sillhouette. I'm not sure yet, it looks a bit like Ace. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 03:19, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Could be Super Go-Buster Oh? All the Buster Machines combined? By the way, I changed Beet Buster from Gold to Orange and removed a trivia piece that was rendered incorrect by this change. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 08:55, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess that scan wasn't so good after all huh. Another scan finally confirmed that he is gold, not orange. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 15:06, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * Saw them as well. Looks gold to me. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 18:10, April 24, 2012 (UTC)
 * I actually just noticed something when looking at the new scans. It looks like Stag is a armorred form for Beet. Since the bottom half of the supposed BuddyRoid retains alot of Beet's aestetics.<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 19:19, April 24, 2012 (UTC)

Bakunyuu Sentai Chichiranger
Should we keep this page or not? I'm concerned because it's apparently about porn, which doesn't really fit on a wiki about a children's show. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 21:44, April 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah it's gone. We can't put those here. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:48, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Season Count
The new facebook timeline page for FB counts 19 seasons, and when you go back to their original site, the count Super Samurai as a separate season, but leave Mighty Morphin out, despite its inclusions prior. This tells me that while for a time they consider MMPRv2 a separate season, they no longer do. Thoughts? - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  05:09, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Powerrangers.com has never mentioned v2 either. I've always considered MMPR reversioned to be nothing more than reruns anyway. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 09:57, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Saban and Nick only counted it for promotinoal purposes. I guess they're trying to get everything to match up with the proper season <span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on G-Wiki 12:03, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

Alrighty then. 19 seasons it is.- DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  15:25, April 5, 2012 (UTC)

New Wikipedia link template
I just made a template for Wikipedia links - Template:Wikipedia link. It includes the Wikipedia logo and uses PAGENAME and the wikipedia: wiki-link prefix to link to a page's Wikipedia counterpart. It's intended for the external links list at the bottom of season pages. What do you think? We could probably do something similar for Kamen Rider and Metal Heroes wiki links. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 19:09, April 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 01:09, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

I just got a promotion
I just got offered an administrator role on another Wikia wiki - Logopedia. Apparently they were impressed by how vigilant I am with their User Reports system (a page where you report vandals and spammers). <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 22:15, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Congrats man! :) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:36, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Wikia Video Games
Any idea why this wiki has a Wikia Video Games footer? We should be in the Wikia Entertainment category, as the wiki is mainly about a TV show. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 23:52, April 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've enquired about getting that sorted out. See here. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 18:34, April 13, 2012 (UTC)
 * Odd. I just saw this. Lemme know what they say. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 14:35, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Will do. Sent them an email via Special:Contact/general. <font color="red" face="Trebuchet MS">Digifiend 17:26, April 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Reply from Wikia Support:

Brandon Rhea, Apr 16 05:59 pm (UTC):

Hi James,

''Thanks for contacting Wikia. The wiki actually is in the Entertainment hub, but the footer is showing Video Games because of a keyword tag attached to the wiki. I've sent an e-mail to the person in charge of that and I'll see if I can remove it for you. When I hear back, I'll let you know.''

Best regards,

Brandon Rhea

Wikia Community Support
 * <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 13:11, April 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Brandon Rhea did a lot for this wiki before. He's a good guy. He'll get that fixed. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:41, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Badge Farming
If we are not allowed to farm badges on this wiki, as we have been repeatedly told, why is it that some people are repeatedly getting away with it? This is not the first time this user has confessed to farming badges on this wiki in clear and defiant violation of the rules, and at some point the line must be drawn. He clearly has not learned his lesson the last time, and he is continuously allowed to return from bans and resume farming badges. We need to either enforce this rule, or get rid of it. The sheer amount of nonsense and cluttering categories being added to the wiki by this user is astounding. Nbajammer 08:01, April 22, 2012 (UTC)
 * King Wiki had actually had a life ban rescinded. He's just been banned for a year for badge farming and inserting false information. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 08:23, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Samurai Cast credit request
Just got two PMs on Rangercrew from Fury Diamond:

''Hey bro,

I was browsing your wiki and noticed several episode title images were taken from Samurai Cast "Episode Guide". These are the episode title images that are sized at 320x180, which is the consistent size that I used for the Episode Guide. I believe most (if not all) of the Super Samurai episodes were taken from the guide.

Here is an example: Trading Places''

''The images used as Episode Titles in Samurai (not Super Samurai) use images from the gallery which are sized at 640x358/359. I don't mind sites using images from Samurai Cast, but appropriate credit should given.''

So, we need to ensure proper credit is given. I've put a message in Community Messages regarding this. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 19:02, April 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noted. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 17:39, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Domestic vs. international masters
New page created by User:AFPR-DragonRanger: Domestic vs. international masters. A useful page, but I think it may need it's title tweaking and I've no idea what to class it as in terms of categories and the article header. It's not like the majority of pages on this wiki. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 00:51, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Weapon and Element categories
Lately there have been several categories added to Ranger pages on both the Power Rangers and Super Sentai sides of the wiki. Personally, I find most of the new categories to not be all that notable, but rather than start deleting them, I want to run it by you (Dc and Digifiend) first. So, what are your views on it? DigiRanger 02:07, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I did think it odd when I saw the Elder category, which is apparently for the oldest member of a Sentai team. But often, ages aren't explicitly stated in the show. And Blue Buster is currently in that category, but if speculation proves true, it should be Beet Buster. Things like this are probably badge farming. We should check if it's the same one or two editors adding all these categories, and if so, give them a warning. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 10:57, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Categories in general need a serious overhaul, for it seems like every day or every other day I see one or more new categories created and then added to every imaginable ranger page. Granted there are numerous ways rangers could be grouped - weapon preference, color, rank, etc. But that doesn't mean a category should be retained or created. As a user, I would like to see the overall number of categories limited and kept that way - only to those most useful. Otherwise the category list at the bottom of ranger pages will reach multiple lines in length, becoming utterly absurd in size. Nbajammer 12:14, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * No particular opinion on this. For now, I'll defer to you Digi and Digifiend. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 17:39, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, good to know your viewpoints. I'll get to work on getting rid of the stuff that is not stated in Sentai or Power Rangers material. DigiRanger  00:41, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Isn't there some way to lock down category creation to only veteran members or something? -- Gear [[image:ltest.png]] Richie, Admin (Talk) 06:58, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Character Navigation
I was wondering if something along the lines of this would be a good idea. It obviously needs some polishing before it was added to pages, but what do you think? TARDY! 10:45, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Gaoranger articles already have something like that:

I think that if we do this, we should include the allies and villains as well (meaning even the Gaoranger one needs updating), not just the Rangers themselves, but the layout should be more like your suggestion. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 11:02, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think with the addition of Allies and Villans, the tempate would be getting to big. To me, templates such as this should be a "quick-link" thing between related articles. Maybe a link to a page which includes a Rangers Template, a Villans Template, and an Allies Template together. A better word than "current" would also need to be found, as these rangers will not always be current, and none of, say, the MMPR Rangers are "current." TARDY! 11:09, April 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I say make the links lead to categories or lists that fall under it if the list is to be overly long.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 17:39, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
After the Blake bradley sockpuppeting problem was dealt with, I decided we should have them named and shamed. Template:Sockpuppet has been placed on his user page and all of his other accounts' pages. I copied it from Logopedia, changing the background colour from pale pink to light blue to match our colour scheme. Wikipedia uses a similar template. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 20:32, May 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just found out that thanks to him, a number of ranger alumni pages on Wikipedia have been deleted, and Brittany Anne Pirtle's is nominated for speedy deletion. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 13:59, May 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh yeah! Looks like I managed to salvage that one, thanks to additional references found by Chiyako92. And it gives me more material to add to her page here! <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 23:44, May 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * On the topic of sockpuppets (sort of) User:Samueljoo has popped up on Gundam Wiki, inserting more of his false fanfiction. I already blocked him for life because of what he did on here. Soo the day might come when we'll need to globablly ban all of Sam's accounts from wikia. <span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 04:17, May 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm beginning to suspect we may have another sockpuppet. User:Darkblade2814 has been adding a lot of unnecessary categories to different ranger pages - some of them where they clearly don't belong, no less. I revert them, and they're coming back. Might be Blake bradley, but I'm not too sure of that. Nbajammer 18:12, June 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Nah, it really doesn't match Blake's style, but if he does it again, which is likely, he will get blocked. DigiRanger  18:42, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Improvements suggestions
Rangercrew Private Message from galaxy_ben, he has several suggestions to make a better Power Rangers wiki.

''Hey James, I'm writing to you about the PR Wikia - as I think Power Rangers deserves a far more organised and deteailed Wikia (much like Lostpedia or Wiksteria Lane). I have a few prepared stuff and ideas I would like to implement, and as your the Admin of Morphin Grid and have in the past expressed being displeased with how that wiki is run, I was hoping you could/would like to help me. I have created a small wiki with some example pages to demonstate what I mean. (Please use the below links to look at the examples

Episode Example - A far more detailed and clear structure to how it is to be written. Obviously it would be without dead links, have far more images and have a better background, outline etc

Character Example - Note every episode the character appears in is written about (in the example only the first three episodes are done).

Character Menu Example - The portals are far more appealing and easier to use. There would also be more then 'ranger' and 'villain' and obviously split into seasons etc.

Admin Page Example - Who has what power should be easy to see and have a bit of fun to it which promotes a better contributing community.

Also the message system, writing system and chat should all be updated - the site will look far better) more modern) and it will far easier to organise what pages etc are to writtten and what everyone wants. (Message System Example)

I have more ideas and pages/images extra to use and I honestly dont think it will be that hard to get a really great PR Wikia which has all the information people need and an organised system to write about and for people to enjoy keeping it updated. Well tell me what you think and please get back to me. Thanks James''

Note, the displeasure he refers to was a couple of years ago, when none of the currently active admins were here. I already told him that we discussed and rejected the message wall feature. Please discuss the other suggestions here. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 22:45, May 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Going over those templates, the only relatively useful thing we don't have is the cast info on the episodes, which we shift into its own section to save the amount of space that the template takes up. I honestly can't think of anything to update right now, but I do acknowlege, there is still room for improvement. DigiRanger  15:24, May 13, 2012 (UTC)


 * As for episodes, I see Act I and Act II. Those are nice but aren't really that necessary. Character portal would be way too much like what we have with categories now. I don't see a staggered difference in other stuff. Sure they have an admin page, but we also have admin noticeboard and headers that inform about who runs the place. Like Digi says, unless I' missing something, I don't see anything from the examples that's different that we can use. I did notice that we don't have an 'appearances' section for our characters (listing where they appear). I realize this is practically a given for all core rangers but sixths and villains don't really always appear. But that's just a thought. Saw it at the Avengers EMH wiki. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 16:18, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * As for communication, I would personally prefer message wall so we don't have to scroll down to find the proper message to comment on. And all the old messages are archived.<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 20:05, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes but you'd also get notifications to threads or posts you're no longer interested in attending to. I posted ONCE on Angry Birds wiki on a wall and daily I get notifications on messages I don't need to see. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:13, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can unfollow the messages by clicking the "follow" button twice. Just hitting it once will have you "follow" the message, meaning you'll be constantly getting messages, unfollowing it will stop that<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 08:07, May 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree with Dchall, that's a major annoyance. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 10:12, May 16, 2012 (UTC)

Category Help
Guys, please take a look at this. Ever since changes were made to the way the categories look in the New Wikia skin, Monobook has often been borked. I am showing the Deletion category here as one such example. While the category itself may be empty, often times when I go to view a category it is not, but I see no pages in it. Don't know if there is anything that can be done, as I hate the New Wikia skin and that is why I stick with Monobook. Nbajammer 23:51, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Notice also that there are multiple pages of items in the Deletion category - but nothing shows up. Nothing at all. Nbajammer 23:53, May 14, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not our fault I'm afraid. We actually have it set to the classic view by default. I think you'll need to take it up with Wikia Support. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:05, May 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I sent them a message with the screenshot. I'm hoping they can straighten it out as I really, really hate the new wikia skin. I've found it cumbersome and more difficult to use than need be. Nbajammer 01:54, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

I heard back. It appears that it was set to Exhibition view, and Wikia said to click the icon to the left of that and it would appear normal again. I can verify that this worked. In case anyone else has the same problem, here's what they said:

"This is simply a page setting. When you're viewing the category, you'll see on the right in the image you posted on User:Nbajammer/Sandbox where there is "Sorting type:". At the bottom of that little column under "Recently edited", there are two little icons. If you click the one on the left, it should fix the category view for you. The one on the right will break it again. This is because the one on the right is for Category Exhibition which doesn't work properly in Monobook. The setting is remembered, so the last one you used will be the one used the next time you view a category." (I changed the link to a wiki link to the same location)

So if any other Monobook users encounter this problem, this is how you fix it. Nbajammer 18:48, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Ninja Captor's Status as a Sentai
Can we really consider Ninja Captor a Sentai? The only fact we heve going for it is it is in a Bioman book with the other Super Sentais. There is more proof against Ninja Captor being a Sentai: So there is more proof against Ninja Captor being a Sentai. I believe we need to atleast give it a Sentai-like show status. Dont Be a Sad Panda 01:29, May 25, 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) Ninja Captor's inclusion in the book could have been a goof on the maker's part.
 * 2) Ninja Captor is not made by Toei, unlike the other 37 teams.
 * 3) The team does not have a henshin sequence, they just pull their respective masks down on their face.
 * 4) At the time of the book's release, Bioman was still called the 6th Sentai, so the book could have been desccribing the 5 seasons before it, and 3 shows that are very similiar to it (the other two being Gorenger and JAKQ).
 * 5) Ninja Captor was made by a different company that did the other seasons.
 * 6) Like Akibaranger, it is not aired on the same channel as the other seasons. However, Akibaranger being on a different channel is on purpose, to differ it from Go-Busters.


 * Those don't really work at all 1) That can not be verified by anyone but the person who put them in. 2) It was made by Toei, just not Ishinomori (as Gorenger and J.A.K.Q. were). 3) Early Sentai were just like that. 4) That is the only leg you have to stand on there. DigiRanger  01:55, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

I just added the 5th and 6th points. Dont Be a Sad Panda 02:11, May 25, 2012 (UTC)


 * Your 5th point lends to your second point. Your sixth point isn't valid, as changing channels does not an official status grant. We'd love to change these as soon as there's actual material that lends to its status and not interpretations that say 'it could've been"-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 04:25, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Power Source Page
I decided to ask first considering the last time I tried to create a page, it was deemed unnecessary. I was thinking of maybe creating a page regarding "source of powers" for all PR and SS series, sort of similar to the page set up for "Growing the Monsters". This could sort of be a guide as to what each team has as the base for power, how they use it and the basis for stuff like, say, other important aspects (such as the whole "relay system" the Dekaranger morphers use to access their suits or the ability of Ranger Keys for anyone to access such as the two non-Gokaiger) It doesn't even have to be comprehensive, maybe just set-up to maybe explain how they all look the same but have different power bases. -StrangerAtaru 22:44, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * You mean the Boukenger Sentai history page? It was already covered under 30 Sentai Encyclopedia. It was deleted for being a duplicate, not for being unnecessary. I see no problem with creating Ranger Power Sources and Sentai Power Sources pages. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 23:23, May 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * About that: basically there was a special that aired around Boukenger that just showed all the various Sentai stuff and somehow it sort of felt like what they did with Gao vs. Super Sentai, thus why I was trying to list what was in it (it was packed in TV-Nihon's package and felt like it was the Super Video for the season since there wasn't some special like other years of Red/6th, like the Ban/Tetsu or Kai/Hikaru ones before...or Takeru/Genta & Marv/Gai more recently). But I get it considering that: the special was just that, while Gao vs. Super sentai had all the clips during said movie. (making it more similar to the first Turboranger episode) I was just trying to be helpful and sorry. And I"ll set up at least a source page, mostly with what I more know from watching it. (basically it mostly came to me due to finally realizing with my Changeman watch that the "steam" in their roll-call was the Earth Power...and I don't want others to be confused like I was) -StrangerAtaru 00:11, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Characters' real names
Since Yumeria Moegi's real name is revealed to be Yūko Yamada, is it possible to replace most of "Yumeria" to "Yūko" or let them be? If so, the same should go to other characters who used fake names at the beginning, but at some point of the plot, they reveal their real names. Judd  F., Fan of Tennis Ball 04:14, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * real names for those who commonly use fake names are usually #1 part of the plot, and could be overly spoilery #2 not used on a day-to-day basis. Thus, we'll be using whatever aliases they commonly use for articles, operationally speaking. 203.87.201.38 04:26, May 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * We moved Lemurian Princess Leilana back to Natsuki because her past was a big part of the overall plot in Boukenger and was too big a spoiler. We're keeping it consistent, and since Yumeria and Natsuki both use their fake names most of the time, that's how the'll be<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 08:38, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

List of deceased actors and voice actors
Suggestion: should we make a similar page for Super Sentai alumni? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 00:59, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * I say go for it, as long as it's known that they are deceased. Nbajammer 01:03, June 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I know there's the first Kirenger, Baku Hatakeyama, for starters. There aren't any other known rangers, but I don't know about allies and villains other than Machiko Soga. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:03, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Page made: List of deceased Super Sentai actors and voice actors. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:10, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think like all list pages, we should move the 'list' pages into categories. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 08:11, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

TV Nihon has set up a rival wiki
Looks like we got ourselves a competitor in the Super Sentai/Kamen Rider department. No Power Rangers coverage though. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:03, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cool. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 05:58, June 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * And we lose a rival - Rangerwiki.com has vanished. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 02:35, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Megaforce
Goseiger confirmed. There's probably a bunch of edits to be made, so far I've added the source to Megaforce's page, and updated the Goseiger page and homepage. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 18:58, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Got it. Will leave you on it for now and will help with what's left. Currently on new Buster duty. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 19:10, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * When was Goseiger confirmed and on what site?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 19:13, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Digifiend has provided references. Please check on the Megaforce page. Also, please add a colon whenever you're next to talk on a talk page. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 19:16, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Saban Brands confirmed it, Gaeaman. We're getting Goseiger. Saban's Press Release Nbajammer 19:23, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Just a subtle note - if you guys edit the menubar to include Megaforce don't forget to also do it for Monobook, which I use. Nbajammer 05:52, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Noted, Nbajammer. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 08:38, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Menubar updated to include all 38 Sentai seasons (including Ninja Captor and Akibaranger) and all 20 Power Rangers seasons. Now for the monobook version! <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 18:00, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * And that's done. :) <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 18:16, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks good, but you may want to add the Alien Rangers to the MMPR section. For some reason Mighty Morphin 3 includes those episodes but they are listed on their own page. Nbajammer 18:26, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've added it to the Monobook sidebar, but doing it for the modern skin would mean removing something, as there can be only be 10 per sub-menu. Suggestions? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 21:11, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

Default pictures
Is there a policy for what photos should be used as a character's picture, as in what do we use for a default and what should be their Ranger form picture?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 22:34, June 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * There isn't one stated but the preference really is to use clear screenshots (or roughly more "landscape" photos) on the infoboxes while using clear standup shots for the ranger forms. Why do you ask? -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:36, June 12, 2012 (UTC)
 * If I'm right, it's because some people have been changing photos recently. Tanya's unmorphed photo was changed from a Turbo era image to a Zeo one, which was good because the Turbo one was watermarked (Ranger Retrocenter)- so I deleted the old, now unused version. I reverted a change on Rose though, because her's was a rare publicity photo, which is clearer than any screenshot. Most seasons lack such photos (we often get helmetless group shots, but not civilian uniform solo shots like Rose's). Katherine Hillard's was changed as well, from a MMPR era picture to a helmetless Zeo shot. For the morphed shots, I have seen a few on Sentai pages which are clearly from PR (US backdrops such as the Zeo Power Chamber, Fox Kids logos visible, etc). Those should be replaced I think, especially anything with a logo on it. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 03:09, June 12, 2012 (UTC)

Easy skin switching
Check this out: tardis:Forum:Easy switching between monobook, wikia and wikiamobile - you can add buttons to easily see what a page looks like in Monobook and Wikiamobile skins. Very useful. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 15:57, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Kamen Rider × Super Sentai
I think we should reconsider how Kamen Rider articles are handled on this wiki and vice versa: Super Sentai articles on the Kamen Rider Wiki.

I don't think merely saying where the foreign characters are seen and linking to their wiki is a good idea. There are several wikis which handle crossovers with another series with their own. For example, there's Star Trek: The Next Generation/Doctor Who: Assimilation2 which is covered on both the Doctor Who and Star Trek wikis. So we could have articles on the stuff from Series B that appears in the crossover between Series A and B and vice versa, with information relevant to the crossover and some background information too.

I also think it isn't right to have the Super Hero Taisen page on just this wiki. Going back to Assimilation², that has a page on both the Doctor Who and Star Trek wikis, which have very different layouts for story pages, while this wiki and Kamen Rider are pretty much the same, though there could still be some deviations. --MrThermomanPreacher 21:53, June 23, 2012 (UTC)
 * You have a point, and anyway, I think the template used for linking to each other is a bit of a mess. Doesn't look smooth if you do add other content to the page, or if there's no photo. I support your idea. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 17:27, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

So what do the other admins think? --MrThermomanPreacher 17:49, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I would be fine with duplicating the article, with links to the other wiki made on each. For instance, the version on this page has local links to its characters and cross-wiki to the KR ones. On the KR wiki, it has local links to KR characters and cross-wiki to this one for the SS characters. Really hurts to have it on one but not the other as it does fall into both universes. Nbajammer 19:19, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Insults on Rangercrew
Cmdr Crayfish had this to say on Rangercrew.

''I've criticized that wiki for years. It's broken. It's incomplete, the language is stilted and quasi-robotic, and it's more focused with a laughable definition of "complete" (SENTAI EVERYTHING!) than doing PR RIGHT. Is there a Blue Putties page denoting their use in toy commercials and scripts? Is there a Putty type category using all the game variations, for that matter? Is there an effort to apply the indexing systems inherent to the franchise? It's just... NO fan I know uses that site. They laugh at it.''

''I remember for years it had an entry whose source was "Chris Funaro said this." Not even that I'd said it in a Q&A, something quotable, nor did it source where I'd said it. It just cited me. It's a terrible wiki, dude. It's, what, five, six years old? And it hasn't improved. It's not concerned with being a good PR wiki. It's concerned with stupid definitions of "complete." Are there entries for stuff from the licensed material, or comics, or games? Cut script material? Lists of alternate edits to episodes? Stuff, all of which has been sourced throughout the fandom? This is stuff TFWiki had mastered within ONE YEAR OF ITS EXISTENCE.''

Not good guys. We need to do something about that, but what? I've already added the split and picture templates to Power Rangers Comics - each issue ought to have it's own page. We need to make the comics and video games articles easier to find as well. I've just had to make a small update to the navbar, as we had a link to the blank Category:Games instead of Category:Video_games. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:46, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

More than that. It has to do with how the pages are written and organized. I find it funny that he hasn't cited any examples. And exactly where would we get information from regarding these comics, and what will the template look like? You should go tell him that this wiki isn't just going to focus on PR just to satisfy Americans. I think we need some sort of to do list set up here, or maybe go off of Gear Richie's Wiki Improvment Goals page thing<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 02:30, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm following that thread, Digifiend - and I know how he can be sometimes. If he feels it's broken or incomplete, why not come here and try to help fix it? But he also brings up some points symbolic of what I've said for some time now - about categories for the littlest things, for instance. At the same time, many things have changed as well. Things require sources now - which he mentions as not having been required. And if he thinks it hasn't improved - he clearly hasn't checked the place out in some time.
 * Of course, it doesn't help with the inactive admins - mostly you, Digi, and DC come around. Gaeaman has limited admin powers, and I have none - despite wishing I did at times. While admins have every right to have their lives, if they aren't here helping and more haven't replaced them it makes more work for you 3 to handle, and that often means stuff gets delayed that doesn't need to be. Perhaps he sees silly things that would require administrative action that Gaeaman or myself could take care of, but lack the power to do so?
 * Lastly, as far as splitting pages like the comics page - this place was a mess way back when (I didn't visit at the time, but I've seen multiple remarks as to how bad it was), and with that much work needed to clean it up it won't happen overnight. To expect the wiki to clean up in a hurry is expecting too much of it for those who are here and have time to contribute to it. I try to do what I can, within my own limitations. I know Gaeaman and StrangerAtaru and a few others also do. If we had people with time and expertise who could work on the splitting maybe it could be done faster (I am not the right person for this task).
 * Of course, I'll keep thinking about ways to improve the wiki further, but I don't think it's nearly as bad as he suggests it is, and it is a lot more detailed and organized than many other wikis I've seen. And the biggest plus of all - no Ryulong here! Nbajammer 02:42, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ohh you mean that one guy that requested the Mobilates be called the Movilrates or something. And do you at least have rollback powers Nbajammer?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 03:26, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I do have rollback powers - but that's all. Sometimes I have to bite my tongue and wait for Digifiend, Digi, or DC to come by to clean up something when I wish I could do it myself. And there's nothing wrong with that, but maybe if more of us frequent and trusted users had more powers to do stuff it would make it look better to people like Crayfish. He might, for instance, see some spam post that maybe you or I marked for Deletion and assume the worst given it hasn't been deleted unaware that none of the admins have come on to delete it. Or people going nuts with category spam or picture spam that we could give a timeout to before it spams Recent Changes. And then there's people like the recent incident with Tysonjackson who didn't seem to understand me or MrSmartyMax when we tried to tell him to source the last name or leave it be as it would be false info. Digi came and took care of it but we could've stopped it on the first shot. (Note: This is not a knock on any of you admins, I'm merely pointing out that some things wouldn't need to wait to be handled if trusted editors had more powers) Nbajammer 03:38, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I also wanted to point out that Fury Diamond pointed out something I had pointed out way back when it was first implemented. When the idea for the achievement system was proposed, I was steadfastly against it. And look what's happened since. I think little things like that, however fun they may be, only encourage negative participation on the wiki and that it downgrades the image others have of it. I also think the fact that powerrangers is in the wiki's url is giving the impression that it should be a PR-only wiki rather than what it actually is and I think that is also giving off some of the negative reception by the people in the thread. They think it is only a PR wiki and that time is wasted on Super Sentai when the true purpose is to document both. Nbajammer 04:20, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well first off, I really don't care about criticisms save for picking up from them to see what works better for the wiki. As for achievements, I've notice people make good en masse edits. As for the url, we have supersentai.wikia.com as well. The reason being wikia topics with prime urls are the most searched. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 10:25, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, despite the wiki's original name being Power Rangers Universe, we've always covered both shows (Zyuranger's article was created in July 2007). The name was changed to the Morphing Grid (which I later corrected to Morphin when designing the logo, to match MMPR), I think, when Ozu Miyuki and Gear Richie took over as admins here, and Dchall later altered the logo to include the names of both franchises. So that's one demand from Mr Funaro that we won't be adopting. We've never been a PR-only wiki. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 11:38, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * That said. If there were any fan-sourced references here, they'd have to be removed. If there are still Funaro-related sources, they are to be removed. He is right on that account. The rest of the suggestions, pick out the good ones and ignore the comments that lean more towards personal taste. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 14:16, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've been looking at other wikis, and I see Tardis wiki had 21 admins, of which 9 are active. Memory Alpha had 22 admins, with 14 of them active. Simpsons Wikia has 8 admins, all active, and their total page count is 8,280, only 770 more than us with 7,510. Transformers Wiki only has 4 admins, and only one is active. That's the wiki Funaro was talking about, really, it's incomparable. Looking at the other examples I just mentioned, I think maybe Nbajammer is right, we should promote some more editors to rollbackers and admins, to be honest. Three of us doesn't seem to be sufficient. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 15:55, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I just want to reiterate that my comments are intended to be helpful in nature - I am by no means insinuating that the 3 of you are doing a bad job, or not enough, or what have you - only that with more people, things won't have to slip by and give Funaro ammunition to discredit the wiki. While I do acknowledge some of his points, I do not agree with him on just as many if not more. It is as if he is basing his comments on this wiki as of a couple of years back, as opposed to now. A lot has been changed and improved since I've been here and I'll be among the first to back up the notion that the wiki is no longer like that - however, due to Funaro's nature, I choose not to get into it with him. And everything I said above should at least be considered if doable. But you are also right, we don't need to bow down to Funaro any more than we do Ryulong. He makes these remarks about what we're lacking but should have, so perhaps he could contribute that info instead of holding it against us. Nbajammer 16:17, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well you 4, myself, SmartyMax, Thermoman, Joker-Man, StrangerAtaru, and some others are the most active on here. I noticed what they said on the badges thing, where it gives editors incentive to make whatever edits they feel like, whether they be good or bad just to earn more points. And we've had at least two self-admitted badge farmers on here that I would harken to guess were only teenagers, as well as users who spammed talk pages or wanted to put in their own fanfiction. And there's also the problem of non-contributors. Since we're all fans, there should be more detail in the pages (the original 5 PR teens being a good example of character, trivia, and history) and we need to get moving on expanding the Samurai pages and the Go-Buster pages without doing a copy paste job from a different page. Also, why would there be a need for a history of the fandom? Since its so divergent in opinions, that could lead to some unnecessary fanfiction<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 18:07, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh that friggin well does it! Now we've been accused of stealing the name Morphing Grid from another fansite - which was famous for never being updated between 1997 and 2002. I've never even heard of it! If the name was stolen, then Ozu Miyuki and Gear-Richie, the active admins at the time we started using it (January 2010), are to blame. But they might have been unaware too, if the other site had long since died. Gaeaman, I agree about history of the fandom, there are other places where that can be documented, no need for it here. Do you think the badges are a failed experiment we should get rid of? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 21:05, June 28, 2012 (UTC)


 * But we changed the name to Morphin Grid, not Morphing Grid. Yes I feel that we should drop the badges. I'm of the philosophy that you should edit because you want to make a contribution to a wiki and take satisfaction in that work. We've had one too many badgefarmers on here, dropping the badges won't decrease contributions.<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 21:19, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I've got to be honest here - yes I do. It's one thing to reward people for editing the wiki, but we've seen far too many instances of people toeing the line, or outright confessing to being here solely to farm badges. The idea is nice, the execution has backfired and with only 3 admins to keep it in line those thing have happened. I unfortunately must confess that I feel it needs to go. As far as stealing the name - if a site has had it for 5 years, never updating in that time then it doesn't matter. Names are re-used all the time for things, and unless it was trademarked and a lawsuit was filed I doubt there's much ground to lay on. Primarily because Funaro thinks he's above this wiki and others in the fandom for his contributions. If he is unwilling to come here and help fix what he perceives to be a problem, then the problem simply doesn't exit. I still feel that in all likelihood that he is going off old information and is unwilling to open his eyes to see what has changed since then. If he thinks the content is broken and lacking, then pray tell exactly what he feels we're missing. History of the fandom? This is a wiki about Power Rangers and Super Sentai, not about the fandom. The fandom ties to the series so little that it doesn't really fit. And what would we say about the fandom? Could we get a consensus on it? Every member of the fandom views it differently and there'd be so many changes to it that it would literally be unreal. And I just love how he says the wiki exists to serve him as a potential customer - sites like wikis have no "customer". And he is but one "customer", not everyone shares his views and if he feels dissatisfied with this wiki he can go elsewhere for his information. Otherwise he can help "fix" it, or simply shut up about it. It's similar to the false sense of entitlement that Ryulong feels over on Wikipedia. If he feels there's a problem then help fix it or drop it. Not too hard for him, if he really cares. And I'd like to think he does, if he's spouting off about it. If so then he should want to fix it and help do so. However, I don't expect him to do so. And it seems like the fandom in terms of fansites and wikis and whatnot all feel they're better than any other one. *smh* Sorry Funaro, but I have to disagree - this wiki has come a long way, and while it may well fall short of where it could be you aren't helping by attacking it and refusing to help fix what you perceive to be a problem, while leaving everyone else who does come here try to clean up a mess that you seem to perceive exists. Nbajammer 21:20, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * As for the badges, I will agree that they have caused a problem with spammers. The Morphin Grid name, whoever accused copying the name of another site, noone knew that site existed and it's named for something in the show. Funaro's words, I couldn't care less what he has to say unless he goes for being helpful, rather than part of the problem. DigiRanger  23:38, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Agreed. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:04, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Decisions, Decisions
This is a condensed decision partition for the talk above. Admin vote time:

Achievements
Given all the reasoning above, Digi, Digifiend, may we sound off a vote on whether to keep the Achievement badges or no? - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  23:37, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * The badges seemed like a good idea at the time, but it has caused problems, so I won't miss them. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:56, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Given Digi's response on another section of this Noticeboard, I'll count that as a cue. The badges go down. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:05, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Administrators
In the interest of choosing administrators, we have here the most active members. Admins, please pick out which ones you believe should be promoted to admin status (if any). This said we have to consider their history. Are their methods divergent from the wiki or do they have a unifying spirit. Are they argumentative? Do they respect admin decisions or decisions of the wiki? Moving forward they'll be carrying the name, so will they be able to take on a more public-relations approach to outside entities? Care to sound off which ones you believe can be promoted to admin status? - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  23:37, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Joker-Man
 * MrThermomanPreacher
 * MrSmartyMax
 * Greg Cassella
 * Nbajammer
 * StrangerAtaru
 * Gaeaman788


 * Shouldn't this be a wiki-wide thing? And is there a limit on how many we should pick?<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 23:56, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * Admins decide major changes and who is promoted an admin. Usually one admin promotes another but given the discussion, a vote is appropriate for the three. I have to admit I accidentally left your name out. You're supposed to be on the list. Digi and Digifiend may pick any from the list or have their own choices. That said ADD A COLON TO YOUR CONVO. lol -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:02, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Gaeaman, I also want to chip in and say that most of the wiki editors probably wouldn't vote on this anyway. Those listed above are the most active users who, ironically, are also those most likely to vote. I like the notion of wiki-wide, but I can't fathom very many ordinary users bothering to vote to begin with. Nbajammer 00:06, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * You have a point. Since I have half admin powers on here already, I'll nominate Nbajammer (a reliably trustable editor who really doesn't quarrel with people) MrThermomanPreacher (whose been working overtime with Super Sentai making sure its up to date.<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 00:11, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll throw my ballot in as well (will not vote for myself as a matter of courtesy) - I'll nominate Gaeaman (also a reliably trustable editor who doesn't quarrel), MrThermomanPreacher (same reasons Gaeaman gave), and StrangerAtaru (who also seems to be on the ball with filling things in). Nbajammer 00:15, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * While your opinions are valued, please understand that right now the vote rests really with three people (currently Admins listed), so give it some time guys :) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:23, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm in no hurry for a decision - Virtually anyone on the list would be a good admin to the wiki. But I did not want to vote for all because that would seemingly moot the point of voting. Nbajammer 00:25, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right jammer. Those are all names I see a lot on the wiki activity. And I'm nominating you for starters, since you've helped out a lot, regularly respond to queries posted on this page, and your talk page speaks well for your character. You also handled the Jack's Posse Fic situation on Gaeaman's talk page last year calmly and patiently, without aggression, even when he was aggressive to you and trying to get you banned. You did so well that we didn't even have to block him. MrThermomanPreacher is definitely another good choice, he has over 10,000 edits both here and on the Tardis wiki, you don't see that often. And finally Gaeaman, who already has admin experience as his signature states. It's always good to give the powers to those who know what they're doing. If any of the others listed don't already have rollback power, I think we should grant it. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:54, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I nominate Nbajammer, Gaeaman (fix yer sig lol), MrThermoman and Joker.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:08, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hopefully fixed. Thanks for the nod'~'<span style="color: rgb(0, 139, 69); font-family: times new roman; font-style: normal; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(240, 240, 240); ">Gaeaman788: admin on Gundam Wiki 
 * Thanks for the nominations guys. I try to do my best to help out around here, and that particular situation was very difficult. It is an honor to help a wiki that I consider a valuable resource even if other people find it lacking for whatever reason. To add to Digifiend's last comment, I also would support granting additional powers to those not selected for adminship because as I stated, any of them would make a good admin. If not an admin, at least they would do well with additional powers such as rollback. Nbajammer 03:15, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * My top choices would be Nbajammer and Gaeaman788, so those two are pretty unanimous. Next would be Thermoman, but he has admitted to me that he is still rather young, so he could wait. DigiRanger  03:25, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Name Change
FuryDiamond has a point here. We have The Morphin Grid as a name and we all came on board when it was already in place. That said it doesn't really reflect the fact that we have www.supersentai.wikia.com in the main title itself. May I suggest a definitive name change? Like perhaps The Super Sentai Power Rangers Wiki. I thought of putting PR first but we do acknowledge and document Sentai stuff first and foremost. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  00:09, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll be thinking on this, but I've often wondered if perhaps we should combine the 3 toku wikis into a single Wikia, given how often they cross over with each other and the recent acts of teaming up across shows (Sentai with Metal Heroes, Sentai with Kamen Rider, etc.) and the fact that it removes some sense of limitation in naming possibilities. I also acknowledge it might not be the best idea, either. Nbajammer 00:18, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately combining wikis takes a lot of work. Also the KR wiki is something we, the Morphin Grid admins only recently came to help with, so we'll probably not be merging anytime soon. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:20, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I didn't reasonably expect it would, however it was a thought I had based on Funaro's remark that Masked Rider and PR crossed over, and then needing to add Kamen Rider in, etc. If we follow that logic, it would be a seemingly natural idea. Nbajammer 00:22, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, KR wiki doesn't have the exact same admin team as the other two - Zeromaro was already in place there, and promoted Dchall and DigiRanger to admin positions. Although Dchall mentioned my name as well when asking for his own promotion, I'm not an admin there. It's an established site. The Metal heroes wiki was only recently set up however, and I think the current linked network system works fine - like the Star Trek wikias, Memory Alpha and Memory Beta. We just need to properly duplicate articles regarding characters from crossovers. As for a name change, using the two franchise names together like that is rather long winded, it won't be easy to make a decent wordmark. I'd suggest Ranger Wiki, since the word ranger is used by both franchises, but another PR wiki was using that name until recently. If we need to change the name ("The Morphin Grid" is PR specific), then fair enough, I'm just not sure what the new name should be. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:17, June 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * We can't use Henshin Grid, since we don't use the word henshin and the name henshin grid is ued for the blog. Ranger wiki sounds too generic, and when you look this wiki up on google, it shows up as The Morphin Grid: A Power Rangers WikiGaeaman788 03:04, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, it looks like that's because the Title HTML code needs to be updated. Where's the setting for that? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 08:28, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Added Staff
Aside from our new admins Nbajammer and Gaeaman, I've added two rollerbackers- Greg Cassela and StrangerAtaru. Also I've restored MrSmartyMax's rollerbacker privileges. Hopefully, the boost in staffing can help us work on an even better wiki. - DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  14:32, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I hope so too. One problem remains, which got buried under all the furore Funaro caused - image citing. See the ImageRef section above. If anyone knows the code, feel free to fix it up. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 14:55, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm starting to watch more Kamen Rider and eventually I will Metal Heroes too, so if you guys find you want some extra help on those sister wikis, I'll volunteer for it.

ImageRef template
After more complaints from Fury Diamond about image credit, I've decided to try and create an Image references template. But I'm having trouble with getting it to show multiple links (you may want to add more than one link of course, if multiple images are on a page). Just using shows the code if there's no second link, which is no good. The template will need to be used on all pages with images throughout the wiki, or all images not captured ourselves or taken from Wikipedia will have to go. The problem is Wikia-wide, so this is the only way I can think of to solve it. I've placed an example of usage on the Megaforce page. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 15:09, June 28, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like to move things. :) -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 15:31, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

King wiki
User:King wiki sent me a message on Logopedia asking for me to unblock him here. But he's had several bans from both me and Dchall. Should we give him another chance? His most recent offence was badge farming. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 23:12, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Although badges are now gone, and the cause for his ban virtually eradicated, I am inclined to say no if only for the explicit reason of his disregard for rules and authority. He knew what he did was wrong, he did it anyway, got banned, begged for another chance, repeated his original mistake, got banned again, and now you're saying he wants to come back. At some point, we have to acknowledge that he isn't going to learn from his errors. He didn't learn the first time, why would he now? And if he gets himself banned again, what's to say he won't ask to be unblocked yet again? He did the crime, he should do the time. And by repeatedly asking to come back, it shows me he hasn't learned his lesson. Also, is it not a coincidence that we remove the badges and all of a sudden he wants to come back? I find that rather ironic. I will go with what the rest of you decide, but I'm against it. We shouldn't be overly lenient with him especially given hes already had a second chance and blew any disregard for authority and didnt learn his lesson the first time around. He certainly has shown no remorse for his actions, either. Not the first time, and not now. Nbajammer 23:20, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not to mention the short timespan between bans and when everything else happened - had it been a year later or what have you, I might be more inclined to consider it. Nbajammer 23:22, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd have to say no. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 00:16, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, way to throw your toys out of the pram, King wiki. Good call guys. He just earned himself a block from Logopedia as well, for intimidating behaviour (all caps reply when I told him no) and harassment. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 20:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Categories with vague names and purposes
I've just noticed that there are some categories that are either exclusive for Sentai or PR but sometimes not specified (a good example would be Sentai Villains and Villains; in this case, it's common to see Sentai villains being added into the Villain category by editors) and in some cases, even using synonymous names (I observed that Intellect is being used for Sentai while Genius contains PR characters). I understand the purpose to have similar but separate categories for the two series but I think they need to be more specifically named to avoid mixing them up. PubLicEneMyNumBah1 07:26, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Good point. Should we change Villains to PR Villains, Intellect to Sentai Genius, and Genius to PR Genius? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 13:33, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure the only reason we haven't is because of the amount of work that gets into it, that it keeps getting shelved for a later date. Otherwise, yes it has to be done.-[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 18:41, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

24 hour test run of message wall and chat
I'd like to do a 24 hour test run of message wall and chat. I think both enable quicker communications between members and since this wiki has added onto its staff I was curious to give it a trial run for a dayGaeaman788 07:29, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm personally not a fan of the message wall. But I would be up for testing out chat - to be able to talk to other editors, especially other admins - would be nice. Nbajammer 07:33, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * I dont have a problem with chat but we're still a no-go for the message wall. It's still too glitchy for some users. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:33, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also wikia is being upgraded to HTML 5, not sure how it'll affect usGaeaman788 18:15, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * It means we may have to change some code for tables, for starters. Explained here. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 21:39, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Do we wait and see what the effects are before we move? -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 10:12, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah I guess. If anything breaks, then we fix it on sight. I wonder if my signature, which uses a font tag, will be affected? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 13:31, July 6, 2012 (UTC)
 * I guess we forgot about this. Someone just blogged about the chat feature, so I figured I might as well turn it on, in light of the above comments. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 10:02, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

It's a feature I won't be using, as it is apparent Monobook doesn't get it. So I won't be able to comment on whether or not to keep it. Nbajammer (talk) 14:07, July 26, 2012 (UTC)

Problem with the badges
Hello everyone ! From almost a week i can't see the badges i earned and/or the badges i could earn. what can be the problem and how i can solve it ? THANKS !!!! Patrick.cesare 07:39, July 5, 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, you can't. The badge system was removed by a vote of the admins. Nbajammer 07:59, July 5, 2012 (UTC)

Inactive
Just want to let you guys know that for a little while I'll be either semi-active or inactive due to real life circumstances that will leave me with limited to no internet access. If you need to replace me or demote me until I get back, go ahead. Nbajammer 02:34, July 9, 2012 (UTC)

Comic-Con
''The following was posted on Digi's talk page, but it's something we should all discuss, so I've copied it here. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 00:58, July 11, 2012 (UTC)''
 * Greetings! You may already know, but Power Rangers will be involved with Comic-Con this year. Wikia will have a physical presence at the 'Con once again, and we've created this badge:

to remind users of this, and provide them with a link to Comic-Con Wiki. There, we will be updating live for the duration of the event with images, info, and exclusives for those users who are unable to be there in person. Would you be willing to allow this badge on the main page here (hopefully at the top of the right column) until the conclusion of the event? Please hit me up on my TALK PAGE and let me know either way so I can add it, or make a note that you've declined affiliation. You're welcome to add it yourself using the code above, but please drop me a note as well so I can track which wikis are participating. Thank you for your time! :)
 * http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/xraydeltaone/images/b/b2/Siggy4.png @ (profile)•(talk)•(email) 02:48, July 6, 2012 (UTC)


 * Since its the San Diego one, I can't make it since I'm taking a night course. Are we discussing if any of us can go?Gaeaman788 04:51, July 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * And I'm in Britain, so obviously I can't go either. But I think they just want to put a link on this page. We need to make a decision by the end of the day because the con starts tomorrow. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 11:38, July 11, 2012 (UTC)

Skylar Deleon
It seems Skylar Deleon was either an extra, or not there at all. Should we delete his page? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 11:20, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think we should, until we find something concrete - which, based on that thread, I'm not sure whether we'll ever find or not. Nbajammer 13:00, July 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * I say keep it with the debunking data. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 13:21, July 16, 2012 (UTC)

Sourcing on the Wiki
There seems to be some debate as to whether Twitter accounts can be used as definitive sources to prove the validation (or invalidation, as the case may be) of information. The bulk of the topic is that conflicting information was provided to a wiki user via Twitter, from an account that supposedly belongs to the actress. However, the account is unverified and aside from a link on her dance group's website, gives no indication that it is official. I personally cannot accept the edits in question due to the fact that Twitter accounts can be made by anyone, in anyone's name, and so there's no guarantee that the actress actually has/uses this account. I'd like some of you to chime in on this, because it could affect the quality of sources that we require to source edits on the wiki. If you ultimately choose to allow it, that's fine - but based on what has been provided I am not convinced. Nbajammer 21:27, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Doesn't the link on that website prove that it's official? And by the way, I used Twitter as a reference the other day when Gokaiger in Megaforce was confirmed by Elie Dekel (via HJU) and Amit Bhaumik. Are you saying I was wrong to do that? <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend  21:45, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * No, not necessarily. Twitter accounts can be verified (see Ciara Hanna's, for instance). That means Twitter has validated their account as being authentic and not someone pretending to be them. We don't know that the person in charge of the account is the same person who portrays Itokutora, because the account isn't verified. It could be, but it might not be either. I don't know which account you used the other day, so I can't really comment on it. I find Twitter accounts to be highly unreliable given the possibility I could make one in someone else's name (I am not the sort who would do that, but it could be done). Facebook suffers from the same problem. On the other hand, HJU itself would corroborate that Twitter post anyway and is a reliable source. What I'm getting at is where we, as admins, draw the line regarding the use of Twitter (on its own accord) as an acceptable source, when the account in question is unverified and thus any information could be from anyone. Nbajammer 21:54, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll put the same example here that I did there - try searching Twitter for Valve Software's Gabe Newell. Look at all the results. And they all (or most, anyway) claim to be the same person. This is why I question not only the use of Twitter here, but in general as well. Nbajammer 22:01, July 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * You only had to check the Megaforce page to see what I meant, the accounts were @henshinjustice and @bhaumikamit. <font face="Trebuchet MS" color="red">Digifiend 01:30, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * We should probably limit it to verifiable accountsGaeaman788 02:00, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I say make a style guide list of verified accounts and unverified but known legitimate accounts and lock the page so as only admins can edit it. A good example is Mike Ginn's account. It's unverified but it's his definitely. -[[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] DcHallofJustice, Administrator, The Morphin Grid, Kamen Rider Wiki  [[Image:Icon-mmprmovie.png|12px]] 02:37, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Extra Ranger/Bangai Hero
I have a proposal to merge the Extra Ranger and Bangai Hero pages, because they mean pretty much the same thing (Bangai = Extra, Rangers are basically heroes, so Bangai Hero basically means Extra Ranger). We could give the page the title Extra Hero or Ranger. As for the pages in the category, we coulld have the 10 featured in Gokaiger, Ninjaman, Gunmajin, DekaBright, DekaGold, VRV Master, and Sieg. X1 Mask could go into the 6th category, while Gosei Green's picture is unofficial, and just a recolor. Dont Be a Sad Panda 03:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * The difference, as I understand it, comes down to Bangai Heroes having different qualities than Extra Rangers. You are right that they do serve the same purpose, but you cannot classify Rio and Mele as Extra Rangers due to the fact they were antagonists for all but the last couple of episodes, and they have different transformation sequences. Ninjaman and Gunmajin do not transform (though technically neither do Signalman or Zubaan), I don't believe VRV Master does (have not seen Carranger), and do not know about Sieg. Nbajammer (talk) 13:35, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
 * DekaBright, DekaGold, and Gosei Green are extra heroes, while the others are Bangai (whatever that word means). There could be some sort of Sub Extra Hero categoryGaeaman788 (talk) 17:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Changes
I just noticed Wikia has implemented a couple of changes that I don't know if can be disabled or not. First is the "Read More" section at the bottom of every article, and the other is that my signature now shows a (talk) with every post, even though it's never done that before. Are any of you aware of a way to turn these off either on a user or wiki level? I looked around but I haven't been able to find anything. Nbajammer (talk) 15:21, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * I think its wikia wide. It used to only appear when you looked at the changes on each page, but its a more accessible way ot reach someone's talk page rather than clicking on their user name and ending up on their main user pageGaeaman788 (talk) 17:14, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Return of the Green Ranger Article
I wanted to show this article, as it is seriously in need of a rewrite. The entire thing is basically one long huge script of both parts of the episode, with every single little detail noted down. The wording used is also quite embarrassing in places. For example, it opens with 'Another bright and shiny day in Angel Grove'. Shiny? Well anyway, the whole thing needs deleting and rewriting fast. http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Return_of_the_Green_Ranger Dandaman62 (talk) 12:02, July 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I deleted that all out save for the crucial parts of the article, and prepped it for someone to re-write. I don't know how that sat unnoticed for almost 3 years, as it was added by an anonymous user. You are correct that it was full of errors - too long, not split into the 3 parts, read like their opinion of the episode, and like a script. It's now set up for someone to properly re-write. Nbajammer (talk) 14:05, July 27, 2012 (UTC)

Lack of Proper Site Credit
I think i should receive alot more credit for all of the images i am find from my sites RangerCentral.com and SuperSentai.com i am able to find too many on this site without mention or credit for them
 * The admins, as much as they can, give credit where due. But many times, users upload screenshots or posters wherein it's impossible for us to tell if it's sourced or capped. If you find any images that are yours, feel free to affix your website as a source on the image's page. Also please sign your posts thanks. 11:18, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Akibaranger official subs
Akibaranger has official subs now (you need to be in Asia to watch them though). Somebody posted a cap on Rangerboard - turns out that episode 1 is called Lameness is Power, not Pain is Power. http://www.rangerboard.com/showpost.php?p=4129725&postcount=2100 Looks like we need to rethink all instances of that word in the show.
 * Let's look into it.

Metaloid vs Metaroid
TV-Nihon points out on its wiki page that Metaloid is actually an English error on Toei's part, because the term Metaroid is comprised of "Meta" and "Android". Given the definition of what an android is, I am of the belief that Metaroid is correct, despite what the show says. You can look on the page to see other places where Toei made similar errors with regards to English. I think we need to revisit this part of the Style Guide to be more certain which term is appropriate.
 * Granted. However, I believe the bset we can do is point it out (trivia or notes) as opposed to changing it outright. We still need to primarily catalog the proper name, as opposed to changing it.
 * In this instance Toei made a mistake, so why not fix it on here as well?Gaeaman788 (talk) 15:49, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * I agree. I think we jumped the gun on assuming "Metaloid" was official just because it appeared in the show. Probably better to fix it, and note that the "Metaloid" spelling was an error - unless, of course, that was what you were suggesting.
 * Not really, since the portmanteau could easily be 'metal' as well. There is no research backing it up, aside from the use of Meta in Metavirus. As a Japanese student of mine said, for all anyone knows, it's a double pun-> Metavirus -> Meta -> Roid ->Metal Roid->Metaloid. No one really knows given how Japan uses l and r the same way (it's no longer a case of having no letter for 'l' as opposed to stylizing the letter 'l'). The point is, since it's a point of contention, the romanized word (which is a proper noun, no less) should be the one up front and center.
 * Then I think we should examine the kanji and go off what the kanji says. I see the point in the pun, given the 'l' and 'r' thing, but what basis do we have that the base word is metal and not meta/android? I think the kanji could provide the answer to this. The fact that no one seems to pilot the Vaglass MegaZords suggests that they're androids by behavior, lending credibility to 'Metaroid'. Sadly, I don't know where we'll find the kanji but that may provide the actual answer here.
 * Kanji for 'l' and 'r' are the same. There's no proof to either metal or meta. Arguments for either are both valid, is my point. But we have the on-screen English. TV-N's argument may be strong, but still conjecture.
 * Unfortunately, this is another Mobirates/Mobilates situation. That one was Mobile Pirates, and therefore both R and L were possible. We only found out L was the correct spelling when a toy was revealed when the season was already over. Gekiranger's movie shows that one in-show usage on a computer screen cannot be trusted. The merchandise and props determine it.

Yep and that's why I wanted to bring this up - in the context 'Metaloid' does not make sense, but 'Metaroid' does - and given the Mele vs Mere thing, which was determined to be a Toei screw-up, I figured this had to be one too. That wiki page lists several such instances where Toei screwed up on the English. Which makes me wonder whether we'll ever see any toys of those to clarify as the case was with the Mobilates.


 * If its a Toei screw-up, then the toys may have a similar English problem. Gaeaman788 (talk) 23:15, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

Koragg and Leanbow
I noticed someone made a page about Koragg that was moved to Koragg, The Knight Wolf. We also have a great deal of info on Koragg on Leanbow's page, and the previous Koragg page redirected there. We're going to have to either remove the info from Leanbow's page, or somehow merge the two. I tried various methods without saving my changes and drew a blank but as it is info is duplicated that doesn't need to be if Koragg and Leanbow are going to have separate pages. I am not sure what we're going to do about this.
 * It's supposed to be a Two Face situation like Astronema and Karone. They should be split.
 * We'll want to remove that part from the Leanbow page and transplant it into the Koragg page, and perhaps leave a link to that page in its place (or something).
 * There's a 2Face template. For some reason it was already on Koragg, The Knight Wolf but not on Leanbow. This has now been remedied. I've also changed the redirect at Koragg to point to the correct page.

Power Morphicon
Looks like lots of details will be revealed at Power Morphicon. So far, we know that Seaick Gosei Great is Sea Megazord (Gosei Great itself is currently using simply Megazord, an obvious placeholder), Brajira is Vrak (probably invalidating Admiral Malkor) and Super Goseiger is Armored Might Megaforce Rangers.
 * We have our cast!

Divatox
Guys, please take a look at Talk:Divatox/Gallery. I agree with the poster that there are entirely way too many pictures, even for a gallery. It's really at the point of fan worship. I am very tempted to trim it down myself to be rid of the eyesore, but I want to know your opinions first. There's also quite a few on her normal page as well that probably should be deleted.
 * No excuse for that many images, true. A season page might be able to justify it (Example Hikonin Sentai Akibaranger/Gallery), but not a single character. I already renamed the page (it was originally Divatox Picture Gallery, but I changed it to match the season trivia pages).

User:ToonNicker3
Keep an eye on ToonNicker3, Nbajammer and I have each had to rollback several edits today. He also seems obsessed with removing non-PR info from actor pages, which stinks of fanboyism in my opinion.

Well, this is a wiki for PR/SS, so its not necessarily fanboyism as it is removing things for that actress that one can find on wikipedia. Gaeaman788 (talk) 14:56, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * You still have to remember that not every actor/actress has a Wikipedia page, which I think he's relying on. There are many I find on there that don't have one that I think should. That, of course, relies on Wikipedia's own standards.
 * Yeah, and we have to be consistent. In any case, I found too many articles where he removed info or added false info (Mike isn't a ranger nor was he co-leader of the Galaxy Rangers; Trakeena's Revenge is the 3rd team-up, not the 4th as he changed it to). There was also an edit war starting which I needed to nip in the bud. As a consequence, I blocked him for one week.


 * Wouldn't it be the fourth officialy? Since MMPR/Alien and Zeo/Alien team ups are two seperate events, followed by Space/GalaxyGaeaman788 (talk) 16:14, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think you mean Zeo/Alien and PRIS/TMNT. MMPR never teamed with Alien because MMPR were turned into kids and couldn't morph. But the question is whether you officially count PRIS/TMNT since TMNT is a seperate series from PR, unlike all the others. If you do, then it would be the 4th. If you don't, it's the 3rd. Since TMNT is a different show, I wouldn't count it, so it would be 3rd.
 * Ohh yeah forgot they couldn't morph. Silly me :p. You're right there are just 3Gaeaman788 (talk) 16:33, August 27, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Shell Shocked is a crossover, not a team-up. Same goes for A Friend in Need.
 * This is why we don't count past the first. lol.
 * Digifiend, the only time Nbajammer reverted me was by accident on Clash of the Red Rangers. When we talked it out, things were cleared up, and coincidentally he ended up making the same mistake, which I fixed. There has been NOTHING wrong with my edits, but I was blocked for a week for trying to talk it out... how is that fair?--ToonNicker3 (talk) 19:52, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

That wasn't an accident - the only accident in my reversion was failing to restore a portion of the edits that weren't in dispute. And I did fix that. The main reason for my reversion was intentional, as I explained in the discussion. I'll let Digifiend explain the remainder of your question, as I did not enact said block.

I don't mean to start anything, but wouldn't Trakeena's revenge technically be the fourth team-up? There was "Rangers of Two Worlds" in Zeo, and "True Blue to the Rescue" and "Always a Chance" in In Space. Kosmo7895 (talk) 05:01, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I was confused. "Trakeena's Revenge" is Lightspeed Rescue, not Lost Galaxy. But then, wouldn't "Trakeena's Revenge" be the 5th team-up? There would be the three I previously mentioned, plus "To The Tenth Power"/"The Power of Pink" in Lost Galaxy. Kosmo7895 (talk) 05:06, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Episode infobox
I made a minor alteration to the Episode infobox, so that it says US Air date instead of just Air date, in light of the last few PRSS episodes getting aired in Latin America and France before the US. A few previous episodes have aired in the UK before the US as well. However, I forgot that the template was also used on Sentai episodes. If someone would like to make an alteration to include optional entries for world premiere air dates (only used when the premiere wasn't in the US or Japan), US air dates (all PR episodes as well as the Dynaman gag dub), and Japanese airdates (all Sentai episodes), it'd be welcome. At the moment, the PRSS premiere dates are noted as trivia, which isn't ideal.
 * Alright, it's done with three countries in the template for airdates. I believe that should do it.
 * Suggestion: Since the airdates aren't linked anyway, why not simply iterate the country of origin in parentheses with a br, having the second feature the US airdate.
 * eg. Airdate: Aug 31, 2012 (UK) Sept 2, 2012 (US)
 * Avengers EMH wiki had the same problem actually, and they basically chose to ignore the non-US airing which is a mistake. I'm glad we're being more global and recognizing the importance of non-US premieres as long as they are unique premieres.

new ORGANISED fanfic wiki
a new ORGANISED wiki has come in for fanfic sentai rider and pr and we need admin and chat mods and idea givers and last but not least actors cause we will do any series for anyone for free and all you have to do is aplly on chat if me or morphinicous are there but there will be rules coming out soon

we are asking not to complain about how many pages there are we are just moved from another site and we are just hiring for peaple to help this site become a henshin grid http://fanfictoku.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity

thank you all who took your time to read this - Starrman (talk) 01:45, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Edit Episode List
Hi, I was wondering how I might edit an episode list for a season. I noticed an error in the Zeo Episode List. On the Zeo page, the episode "Mean Screen" redirects to the article of the monster rather than the episode when the link is clicked. However, when I click to edit, all I see is *parethesis* Zeo Episodes *parenthesis*. Any explanation of how to fix the problem, or just another user fixing the problem would be greatly appreciated. Kosmo7895 (talk) 04:54, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Lack of Credit
The latest Power Rangers Megaforce entries fail to cite the original sources. We thought that this issue was resolved months ago. The latest character names were added by an Admin, who should've cited the reference.
 * I am not the admin who added the entries, however I've marked them with a Citation Needed tag to remind them to quote the sources. Because I do not know where they got the information from, I cannot source them myself.
 * Feel free to make the addition yourself if you see it lacking. It'll take you about as much time as asking someone else to do it. Also, please sign your posts in talk pages.
 * Dchall, he couldn't. The Megaforce page is protected, only admins can edit it. It's my fault that the citation wasn't there, I did fix it when it was pointed out.
 * Ah, I see. Haven't really engaged in Megaforce pages yet. My apologies.

Whoops
I just removed the airdates for the last seven episodes of Super Samurai. We should've done that last week when it became obvious new episodes wouldn't resume until after the Worldwide Day of Play.
 * If thats true, then I checked Nick.com and Samuraicast.com. Play of Day starts 10/6. I also checked my calender as well. The upcoming Saturday will be 10/13. Please tell me A Crack in the World will start on that day. And thanks for telling us about this. Earlier I was on TV at 12 on 9/8, then 9/22, and now it's whatever the date is. Jonathan Leung (talk) 23:27, September 23, 2012 (UTC)Jonathan Leung
 * That's the earliest possible date, and hopefully the correct one. We'll add the dates when they're confirmed.

Template bar
The template bar at the bottom has a template for ArticleJakq, which doesn't exist. ArticleJAKQ, however, does. Not sure how to change that.
 * Fixed it. It's MediaWiki:Edittools.

Videos
Need any videos? Pick from this wide selection. They're officially licenced and therefore immune from getting taken down! There's around 700 Power Rangers related videos. :) http://video.wikia.com/wiki/index.php?search=power+rangers&fulltext=0&go=Go

Spanish Version of The Morphin Grid
Please help with the Spanish version, in order to grow The Morphin Grid! Anyone who knows Spanish or Castilian has to work with me! This clear? http://es.powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Portada

Angel135 (talk) 13:09, September 30, 2012 (UTC)

Blogs
We've had a few spammy blog posts about Gokaiger getting adapted in 2015, when we know it's going to be in 2014 as part of Megaforce. So I'm wondering, should we just get rid of the blogs? It can be disabled in Special:WikiFeatures. If we get rid of it though, all existing blogs will disappear.
 * I wouldn't mind if we did. It'd also toast any remaining fanfic blogs from way back yonder too. Some of them keep getting bumped up periodically.
 * So I assume we'll be getting rid of the blogs then. I'll do it.Gaeaman788 (talk) 22:11, October 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yours would be the third yes out of five admins, so yeah, majority vote. They go.
 * Fanwork is still fanwork, so yeah.

Oddity
I just noticed Digi blocked a spammer, and when i checked the block log I noticed this:

15:09, October 3, 2012 Digi (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 184.15.4.24 (Talk) with an expiry time of 9999 years (anonymous users only, account creation disabled) (Inserting false information) (unblock | change block) 15:42, October 2, 2012 Digi (Talk | contribs | block) blocked 184.15.4.24 (Talk) with an expiry time of 9999 years (account creation disabled, e-mail blocked, cannot edit own talk page) (Inserting false information) (unblock | change block)

..if they were blocked yesterday for 9999 years, how were they not blocked today?
 * Eh? Just checked, that IP is blocked. The block was changed so as to not block registered users, although you still can't create an account from that IP.
 * Digi blocked it on October 2nd for 9999 years. Thus, on Oct 3rd, it should have already been blocked - yet it clearly wasn't as it created another fanfic page (which Digi deleted and I protected to prevent re-creation) and Digi blocked them again for 9999 years. If they were blocked for 9999 years on October 2nd, they shouldn't have been able to do that on the 3rd to get re-blocked.
 * I just blocked this guy AGAIN. How is he not being blocked when Digi and I blocked him previously?
 * I just blocked that IP yet again - this page said it wasn't blocked!?! http://powerrangers.wikia.com/wiki/Special:BlockList?wpTarget=184.15.4.24&limit=50 Are we getting hacked or what?
 * That's what I'm talking about - no matter how much we block the IP, it keeps coming back!
 * Let's see if anyone on other wikis knows what's going on then: Community Forum: IP unblocks itself.

I sent Wikia a message per that link, we'll see what they have to say.
 * Any response? Just reblocked 184.15.5.182 by the way.
 * Nothing yet. Thought I would've heard back by now.

Kamen Riders
Per this, we should change the template on the Kamen Rider pages to SentaiAlly instead of Bangai Hero because they are not Bangai Heroes when they come from other series. But I am not sure if SentaiAlly is the right template to use either. Thoughts on this?
 * SentaiAlly's the best to use, definitely. Besides when pressed for a show they appeared in, the Sentai show would be appropriate as that's where they show up.

Encode Ban
Rangercrew have been sent a cease and desist notice on Power Rangers episode encodes. If Rangerboard and Power Ranger Planet get hit too, then some of our editors will be unable to watch the episodes in a timely manner, and thus unable to update pages for recently aired material. Good thing we don't list them here.
 * I think we can still watch full episodes of Samurai on Nick.com.Gaeaman788 (talk) 02:00, October 16, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not helpful if you're not in the US. I'm in the UK.
 * I am most certain Rangerboard and PRP will get hit, I don't know how soon but in due time. I understand why they are doing it, but there are so many fans who cannot watch the show on Nickelodeon for whatever reason - most beyond their control, no less. They're basically alienating them unless they can get online to watch them on nick.com (which also might not be possible in some parts of the world.
 * I'm hoping certain restrictions on a certain site (I won't name what) will slow the process.

Fight Fire with Fire
Images and content from Fight Fire with Fire are directly taken from Samurai Cast (www.samuraicast.com). Shiba Morpher has copy and paste information directly from the site. Latest images from the episode (Shiba Morpher) were taken from the site with no credit. The user that posted the photos is OmniPowerRanger.

Episode Details from Fight Fire with Fire is a direct copy and paste from Samurai Cast.
 * Offender blocked for two weeks and warned as to his future conduct, plagiarised text removed, most images credited and one image has been deleted. By the way, Mesh, you should sign your posts with ~.
 * Been talking with FD, and it seems that the user has uploaded a large number of images from RangerCrew, and someone also copied and pasted the episode description for Trickster Treat. Neither FD nor myself have the time to go add in all the proper credit, but we're going to have to reign in the situation a little further than before. There's no reason why FD should be here adding in the credit himself when it is the responsibility of the user who uploads images to do so.
 * There are some factors that go into this. If the user doesn't completely understand the English language for one, or they don't actually look at the right hand side of the screen. Wikipedia now has a citation template, maybe we should petition Wikia to adapt that as well? It might lessen the plagiarism. Gaeaman788 (talk) 01:53, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * That would be a good start. Another would be to create another template like the ones we have for Toei and Saban, but have it be for Samuraicast. This would make it easy for the users to give credit.
 * Its more than SamuraiCast, people cite from blogs (JEF, HJU, etc.). A general citation template would be better, also we need to make a citation template, and somehow make it obvious to the editor that if they're adding information while editing, they need to cite. Gaeaman788 (talk) 16:31, November 15, 2012 (UTC)
 * One big problem is that if you add an image while editing an article, rather than through the Add a Photo option in the Contribute menu, then you don't see the Licensing templates at all. The dialog box you get when uploading while editing an article is different. I think, Nbajammer, that you won't have noticed this because you use Monobook.
 * MediaWiki:Licenses updated. The additional templates themselves still need to made though.
 * That should do it. Template:CopyrightMisc allows credit to any website, using the code . However, you need to edit the image page after uploading to add the credit, as the licensing list just puts it as  . Because of this, I also made specific templates for the three sites mentioned, Rangercrew Media, Henshin Justice Unlimited, and JEFusion. And I added the standard starter templates that we were missing because they were created after this wiki launched.